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Message 1122 of 1429 (902343)
11-21-2022 7:22 PM
Reply to: Message 1118 by Dredge
11-20-2022 12:58 AM


Re: UCD evidence
... now all you have to do is explain how understanding the measure of DNA separation with UCD has provided a practical use in medicine.
Why? Because you're too lazy and intellectually challenged to research those facts yourself?
The scientific consensus, by near unanimous agreement, agrees the fact of the UCD is a linchpin in the evidence of evolution. That's why you hate it so much.
And since you're a cracker munchin' catholic with delusions of Genesis poisoning your brain, anything you say on the subject is, entertaining, but ultimately intellectually useless.

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Message 1127 of 1429 (902376)
11-22-2022 6:20 PM
Reply to: Message 1125 by Dredge
11-22-2022 3:59 PM


Re: UCD evidence
Are you saying that, if I get a Covid jab, it won't work bcoz I don't accept "the fact of UCD"?
The fact you can't accept common descent is an intellectual failure. The jab will work, precisely because of common descent, regardless of what your injured brain is fantasizing.

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AZPaul3
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Message 1129 of 1429 (902380)
11-22-2022 11:47 PM
Reply to: Message 1128 by Dredge
11-22-2022 10:50 PM


Re: UCD evidence
No. Go find it yourself. UCD is now the default position in evolution. You want to kill it, you do the work. The evidence for common descent is available. Go learn. Then tell us where it is wrong if you think you can. We'll wait.

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Message 1138 of 1429 (902459)
11-23-2022 6:19 PM
Reply to: Message 1135 by Dredge
11-23-2022 4:01 PM


Re: UCD evidence
In other words, you have nothing to support your claim ...
No. What I said, since your reading comprehension problem has arisen again, is this:
Fuck you. I am not going to waste my time duplicating the science that is out there on the net for your lazy ass to answer these questions in support of evolution and UCD.
The evidence is there for YOU to find, you anti-intellectual lazy fuck.
I want to know how the theory of UCD has made a practical contribution to medical or biological science.
Then go comb the literature you lazy dumb shit. The answers are there. You will find that you can try to punch holes in UCD and evolution but you can only fail.
If you want to know why and how UCD informes evolution, medical science and biology, you are not going to find it in the confession booth. Go learn, if you still have that capability.
More importantly, you have no alternative to UCD and the processes of evolution. Like the religious buffoons before you, you can only try to destroy, you cannot build. Your religious views are stillborn in stupidity and your meat-cracker gutter religion is useless to the human knowledge base.
You and your catholic church have no knowledge. You have nothing to offer humanity but delusion, propagation of ignorance and blood soaked evil.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 1140 of 1429 (902461)
11-23-2022 6:44 PM
Reply to: Message 1139 by Dredge
11-23-2022 6:22 PM


UCD Is Not The Issue.
That's not how it works.
Yes, that is exactly how it works. You want to replace the edifice of evolution which is the established science. The evidence to support evolution, like UCD, has been known for more than a century and is available to all who seek it. And there is a hell of a lot of it.
You are the one who wants to replace evolution. Therefore, it is incumbent upon you to produce the evidence for your alternative and it has to be stronger than the evidence of evolution.
So stop asking about UCD. It is established reality as well attested by the facts. If you want to unseat it you need to provide two things: an alternative process and a stronger block of evidence to support it. You have neither.
Our understanding of evolution is vastly superior to any religious tripe you just pull out of your bible and you cannot touch it. You have no evidence. Hell, you can't even put forward any viable alternatives, evidenced or no.

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AZPaul3
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Message 1141 of 1429 (902463)
11-23-2022 7:29 PM
Reply to: Message 1139 by Dredge
11-23-2022 6:22 PM


Re: UCD evidence
If you can't provide a scientific paper that supports your claim that Covid vaccines work because of UCD Message 1127, why should I believe you?
I don't give a rat's ass whether you believe or not. UCD is established fact and you cannot challenge it.

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Message 1155 of 1429 (902593)
11-25-2022 2:07 PM
Reply to: Message 1149 by Dredge
11-25-2022 3:46 AM


Re: UCD evidence
Medicine doesn't care if "the relatedness of all species is due to common descent" or not. If the fossil record didn't exist and no one had ever thought of UCD, it wouldn't make any difference to medical science.
And you know this how? Can you cite any papers attesting to this indifference by medicine to the descent of life?
Do you have any reference or logic that even hints at this?
No, no, it's OK. We know you don't. Another one of your lies, Choir Boy.

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AZPaul3
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Message 1159 of 1429 (902648)
11-26-2022 3:25 AM
Reply to: Message 1156 by Dredge
11-25-2022 8:31 PM


Re: UCD evidence
I'm yet to see any evidence to the contrary.
In other words you have nothing. You pulled it from you ass. Another catholic lie.
Typical dishonest religionist.
Until you can produce some evidence for your conjecture then it is false and indeed medicine is predicated on the relatedness of all species due to common descent.
When you lie like this, Cracker Breath, you merely reinforce the reality of common descent and evolution.

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AZPaul3
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Message 1162 of 1429 (902653)
11-26-2022 9:37 AM
Reply to: Message 1161 by Dredge
11-26-2022 6:16 AM


Re: UCD evidence
On the contrary, I have an argument that has yet to be countered by any conflicting evidence.
Argument? All you have is religiously-inspired anti-science speculation with no reasoning. And you have no evidence with which to conflict.
Cracker head, you have nothing. You are lying again.
I suspect my wait will be a long one ...
It's all there, Choir Boy. The internet is easy to search. Unlike your lying religious conjectures science publishes the evidence for anyone with an ounce of intellect to find.
As for me spoon feeding your lazy assed fantasy ... when hell freezes over.
What this whole discussion comes down to is you are too fucking lazy and afraid to even look at the evidence so easily found all around you, while no one, not even you, can provide evidence of your stupid-assed statement.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 1170 of 1429 (902788)
11-27-2022 3:38 PM
Reply to: Message 1164 by Dredge
11-26-2022 11:31 PM


UCD: Gift From God
On the contrary, I accept that the theory of UCD is the best scientific explanation for the evidence ... for what it's worth.
For pharmaceuticals the worth was $1.4 trillion in 2021.
I also accept that science cannot explain the miracle of God's creation, so the "best scientific explanation for the evidence" will always be far from the truth and therefore worthless.
Well that is dumb. You can’t accept something that isn’t true. Science has explained your god’s creation. It is bogus.
And in immunology the "best scientific explanation for the evidence" has been worth 800 million still living people this last year.
The fact you can't accept divine creation is a reality failure.
In reality it’s a gift from god.

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Message 1173 of 1429 (902853)
11-28-2022 7:16 AM
Reply to: Message 1171 by Dredge
11-28-2022 2:19 AM


Be Forewarned
What if the person receiving the vaccine doesn't accept UCD? Will the vaccine still work?
You turn into a 6 ft jackalope with a lust for York peppermint patties. Not a pretty sight. But you're still protected.

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AZPaul3
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Message 1174 of 1429 (902854)
11-28-2022 7:19 AM
Reply to: Message 1172 by Dredge
11-28-2022 2:56 AM


Re: UCD: Gift From God
if no one believed in UCD, no drugs or vaccines could be developed.
Oh you can still make the drugs but they are only effective on people smart enough to take them.

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AZPaul3
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Message 1181 of 1429 (902945)
11-29-2022 8:58 AM
Reply to: Message 1180 by Dredge
11-29-2022 7:23 AM


Re: UCD evidence
What we are saying, Choir Boy, is that no one cares whether you believe or not. Not the scientists planning the vaccines nor the chemists making it. They don't need your silly bullshit to know the vaccines work and why.
Again, cracker muncher, you are too stupid to see reality.

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Message 1194 of 1429 (903093)
12-03-2022 11:37 PM
Reply to: Message 1193 by Dredge
12-03-2022 9:51 PM


Re: UCD evidence
So, let me get this straight. In place of the above you are offering stale crackers with 2000 year old jesus-meat, right?

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Message 1196 of 1429 (903095)
12-04-2022 1:47 AM
Reply to: Message 1195 by Dredge
12-04-2022 12:03 AM


Re: UCD evidence
If you're trying to kill UCD and evolution then you are on the wrong planet.

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