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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
quote: You say that, but you need evidence - which you don’t have,
quote: As I am sure you know perfectly well Exodus makes absolutely no mention of petroglyphs. And if you’ve done decades of research, you’ll know that only a few of those many petroglyphs have anything to do with cattle. Insisting that these few identify the site while ignoring the vast majority is hardly rational. So no, there is no clear connection between these petroglyphs and the Exodus story. I think we’ve got to the point where we can say that your claim of “overwhelming evidence” is certainly false.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
quote: It will? Why? It’s not as if I’ve been there.
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candle2 Member Posts: 827 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Theodoric, when I post something you can take it to
the bank. I have shown ample evidence for my assertion. I havenot been shown one ounce of evidence by Paulk or you. And I know why! You don't have any. What can be asserted without evidence For example, life was created by complex chemically: Can also be denied without evidence.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
If you had the evidence you would present it. You made the claim support it with evidence or withdraw the claim.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Taq Member Posts: 9970 Joined: Member Rating: 5.6 |
candle2 writes: Paulk, at Mount Sinai (Jabal al Lawz) we have the caveof Elijah; altar of Moses; wells; golden calf altar; an old stream that ran down: blackened top; 3000 graves cemetary; lakebed; petroglyphs of bulls; and, Moses' speaking platform located a little ways up the mountain. Ron Wyatt has been dead for years, and he's still conning people. Amazing.
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candle2 Member Posts: 827 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Taq, Wyatt is just one of many who has come out with
such overwhelming evidence for the uweiba Beach crossing. Personally, I believe that only a nut would accept thatMoses parted the swamp of the Sea of Reeds. Or that Mount Sinai is in the Egyptian Sinai without a single Piece if evidence to support either. Don't you agree? An ancient Saudi map (look it up) identifies NuweibaBeach as Nuwayba' al Muzayyinah. In other words, "Waters of Moses opening." You believe what you believe without one ounce of proof.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
Present the map.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
quote: You claimed to have “overwhelming evidence”. That wasn’t true.You claimed to have a site that exactly matched the Biblical description of the crossing site. That wasn’t true. You claimed that the dark top of the mountain you call Mt Sinai was evidence. That wasn’t true. quote: And that is a blatant falsehood. By what standard can you possibly claim that this is true? Edited by PaulK, : Fixed tag
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2
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quote: Oyun Musa, previously referred to means “The Wells of Moses”. But apparently you don’t consider that evidence of anything. Perhaps you can give a reliable source for your “translation” because there seems to be substantial disagreement on the matter.(And I really would like to know how an “ancient” map could be “Saudi”, when Saudi Arabia only took that name in the 1930s)
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7
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In our neghboring state there is a city named Minneapolis, that must be evidence that the Greeks settled that area.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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ringo Member (Idle past 411 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
candle2 writes:
You have parroted Ron Wyatt's lies. I have shown ample evidence for my assertion...Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8513 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.3
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There are even photos of a golden chariot wheel. Corals don't attach to gold. Could this have been from the Pharoah's own chariot? Got pictures for you. Pharaohs Chariot with accompanying anti-air guns.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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candle2 Member Posts: 827 Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
Paulk, I have more to post, but before I do, tell me if you
honestly believe the Pharoah's entire military drowned in six inches of water? On top of that, do you also believe that this six inches ofwater so completely destroyed all evidence of the Egyptian military that not a trace remained? Have you not read that the Israelites traveled both dayand night? Yes, 24 hours a day. The Israelites were super fit. The pillar of cloud protectedthem from the sun during the day. The pillar of fire lit the way for them at night. The Israelites left Egypt on the 15th, the day afterPassover. The days of unleavened bread lasts a week. We are notsure of how many days they traveled before reaching Etham. This was their first camp after Succoth. The Israelites had plenty of time to reach Etham on thefar side of the wilderness. You seem to think that the Israelites would travel a fewhours and camp, but this is completely opposite of what the Bible tells us. God, through Moses, had just defeated Egypt's ten mostrevered gods with the ten plagues. He gave the Israelites the power and stamina to travel24 hours a day-for days in a row. Moses stated that God carried them on eagle's wings.Metaphorically he sustained them. Access to Nuweiba from Etham is through the Wadiwatir (wadi valley). Numbers 33 has the Israelites turning this way and thatin order to get to Nuweiba. This perfectly describes what happens if one approachesNuweiba from the enterior. It forces one to change direction and turn away from the direction of the camp at Etham.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7
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It never happened.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
quote: No, because I don’t believe that the Bitter Lakes were only six inches deep. I think you made that up. Of course, I don’t believe that the Pharoah’s army drowned at all.
quote: Aside from the six inches being your invention, aside from the fact that there is plenty of time for the remains to be lost, apart from the fact that you have yet to provide any significant evidence that the supposed remains at Nuweiba have anything to do with the Exodus and aside from the fact that events that never happened wouldn’t leave evidence?
quote: No it doesn’t. 33:7-8 is the only part that deals with the approach to the crossing site (which certainly is not Nuweiba)
7 They set out from Etham and turned back to Pi-hahiroth, which faces Baal-zephon, and they camped before Migdol. 8 They set out from Pi-hahiroth, passed through the sea into the wilderness, went a three days’ journey in the wilderness of Etham, and camped at Marah.
Nothing about a wadi, or having to “turn this way and that”. Indeed according to Exodus they were camped at Etham when the instruction to go to Migdol arrived (13:20 and 14:1-2). Funny how these “exact” matches turn out to be no match at all.
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