Evangelical Support Group

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You are a christian in name not in action. That's ok. So is the Orange Shitgibbon, mikey pence, mags taylor green, most of the GQP and all the other MAGAt's.
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Fine company I am sure.

More like dog shit tracked in on the carpet.

The peanut gallery has done exactly what I predicted it would do. It has conflated Republican/Conservative ideals with evangelical Christianity. And vilified both.
So let's examine Conservative ideals and see what precisely is so wrong with them. Ten Conservative Principles

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First, the conservative believes that there exists an enduring moral order. That order is made for man, and man is made for it: human nature is a constant, and moral truths are permanent.

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Second, the conservative adheres to custom, convention, and continuity. (...)When successful revolutionaries have effaced old customs, derided old conventions, and broken the continuity of social institutions—why, presently they discover the necessity of establishing fresh customs, conventions, and continuity; but that process is painful and slow, and the new social order that eventually emerges may be much inferior to the old order that radicals overthrew in their zeal for the Earthly Paradise.

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Conservatives are champions of custom, convention, and continuity because they prefer the devil they know to the devil they don’t know.

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Third, conservatives believe in what may be called the principle of prescription. Conservatives sense that modern people are dwarfs on the shoulders of giants, able to see farther than their ancestors only because of the great stature of those who have preceded us in time. Therefore conservatives very often emphasize the importance of prescription—that is, of things established by immemorial usage, so that the mind of man runneth not to the contrary. There exist rights of which the chief sanction is their antiquity— including rights to property, often. (seems like liberals want a giant social stew in which all money is everyone's money. )

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Fourth, conservatives are guided by their principle of prudence.

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Fifth, conservatives pay attention to the principle of variety.

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Sixth, conservatives are chastened by their principle of imperfectability.

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Seventh, conservatives are persuaded that freedom and property are closely linked.

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Eighth, conservatives uphold voluntary community, quite as they oppose involuntary collectivism.

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Ninth, the conservative perceives the need for prudent restraints upon power and upon human passions.

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Tenth, the thinking conservative understands that permanence and change must be recognized and reconciled in a vigorous society.

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Thats only from one website. I could dig deeper and find a general consensus for what Conservatives purport to believe. Why are they evil?

Nonsense. Why the peanut gallery chooses to vilify conservatism is way beyond me.

You obviously aren’t going to find a real consensus.Nobody witnessing the last 6 years can believe that modern “Conservatives” accept the second. Granted some Conservatives have hit back but they’re in the minority and condemned as “RINO”s.

But the conservatives do not follow these principles. Show me one.John Kenneth Galbraith - Wikipedia

Liberals are greedy for power and control. They want everybody to fall in line, under the guise of social altruism.

The thing about uncle miltie(do you know who he is?) is that many of his ideas and theories have shown to be bullshit and he was a failure as an economist and a policymaker.
First of all the quote I presented was about conservatives. Friedman was not a conservative, he was a libertarian.
Milton Friedman's "Shareholder" Theory Was Wrong - The Atlantic
Milton Friedman: a study in failure | Richard Adams | The GuardianIf he was a truly honest person he would looked at the western socialist countries for his comment instead of the authoritarian countries that he admired. Look into his support of Pinochet in Chile, his admiration of the chinese governement.Your turn. Criticize Galbraith.

After reading about him, I found that I honestly couldn't criticize him. He had a great career and wrote some thought-provoking books. I initially reacted to his comment on Republicans and greed but found that I myself took the quote out of context.I withdraw my argument.

The answer remains the same: a good father wouldn't do that. The "father" analogy breaks down.

Using you as an example, the conflation works. And rightly so. Note how Jesus vilified the Pharisees for the same behavior as yours. And yet you can never tell us what that "absolute" morality is. You're afraid to discuss it. Like the customs of racism and sexism. Conservatives keep the same polices year after year, century after century, without regard to whether they work or not. They have contempt for people. So Trump is no conservative. Different shades of white? They would do better to think in terms of improvability. THEIR freedom and THEIR property, nobody else's. Community is not voluntary. It's a contract. It's binding. So again, Trump is no conservative. He wants to be dictator for life. Oxymoron and boldfaced lie. Conservative want to be stuck in the ninteenth century forever.

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I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. -- John Stuart Mill

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I'd like it if you would DISCUSS what you've already said. No need to Gish-gallop all over the Internet trying to find something good about conservatives. See above.
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Did you research uncle miltie? Do you support his "screw the little people" theory of economics?

How so? Because you refuse to think. Nonsense. Conservatives recognize no moral order except "grab what you can". They fail to understand that human nature (except theirs) is improving.(See, THAT is how you point out that something is nonsense: you explain WHY it is nonsense.)

You make my point about conservatives. Nothing can change your mind, no matter how many times you're shown that it's wrong. Note how the US was founded on the principle of "freedom" - yet it took almost a hundred years of "freedom" to abolish slavery - and a hundred and fifty years later, the "freedom" is still not equal. Your Goober Friedman is playing fast and loose with his definitions.And he's saying that greed is a good thing?