Yeh, I get that. Apparently the original is still in your browser - others see the new image straight away. If you view from a machine/browser that hasn't been used for EVC you'll probably see it. Either that or clear your browser - nuclear option.
If you do nothing you'll see it suddenly appear in a week or so.
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona
"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed. Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
Evidently, Lamark has decided to resort to personal attacks rather than present sources for his assertions.
Sorry, but I am not going to waste time on people with visceral fat between their (otherwise great) brain tissue. Basic connections are just never going to be made, not matter how resolved the matter might "be".
Re: Hold Theodoric to post #190. (Responding to my 189)
I'm not going to try the "gently guide the member toward more appropriate behavior" approach with you because it's already obvious it would be pointless. Either manage your behavior to be within generally acceptable limits or you will not be permitted to participate here anymore.
In Rebuttal To Creationists - "Since We Can't Directly Observe Evolution..." Kleinman is resorting to constant spamming. Instead of engaging he is repeatedly posting the same thing over and over. He has posted this about ten times now Message 2347. Kleinman and dredge have resorted to personal attacks repeating the same thing over and over and not responding to criticisms and arguments Please aggressively moderate this thread as it has already deteriorated out if control.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
I don't think Kleinman or Dredge can be coaxed into constructive participation, no matter how strong the moderation. They both have their schticks, and that's all they know how to do.
I have a long record of non-success in moderation of difficult members. Even lengthy suspensions don't work. If we were deluged with active members I'd just suspend them permanently, but at current participation levels that's counterproductive.
My only idea is to seek different approaches to discussion, but I tried that with both of them and was unsuccessful, so I stopped discussing with them.