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Topic: Rebuttal To Creationists - "Since We Can't Directly Observe Evolution..."
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Dredge
Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Message 751 of 2932 (900124)
10-23-2022 2:37 PM
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Reply to: Message 666 by Kleinman
10-22-2022 9:32 AM
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Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
Kleinman writes: You are talking about an atheist physician that runs studies for the World Health Organisation searching for a durable treatment for malaria and couldn't figure out why his two-drug combination therapy failed.
It wouldn't surprise me if all your detractors turn out to be atheists.
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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 366 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2016
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Message 752 of 2932 (900125)
10-23-2022 2:45 PM
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Reply to: Message 742 by AZPaul3
10-23-2022 12:29 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
AZPaul3:
"Woe to those who support the committing of evil by their church. They are the ones who put innocent people to the stake and turn peace into bloody war."
AZPaul3 9:29
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
In your mind, do you think you are a peacemaker? That last sentence you use in every post of yours sounds like you want war.
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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 366 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2016
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Message 753 of 2932 (900126)
10-23-2022 2:47 PM
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Reply to: Message 745 by AZPaul3
10-23-2022 1:28 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
Kleinman:
And my Bible includes Romans 3:23, Genesis 8:21, Ecclesiastes 7:20, ...AZPaul3:
Your bible hasn't anything but fantasy.
From the Secular Bible of Reality, the book of AZPaul3:
" ... for religion is evil and falls short of humanity" AZPaul3 10:15
"And the priests admit their god perpetrated a great evil but tried to cover it blaming the victim for the evil. Such is the evil inclination of the theist." AZPaul3 10:21
"Indeed there is no greater evil in the world than priests passing judgment on all humanity." AZPaul3 10:24
You are very good at seeing the evil in others. Do you claim that you have never done evil? And you still don't answer my question about whether your perception of reality is perfect. Do atheists believe in the principles of forgiveness and mercy?
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 745 by AZPaul3, posted 10-23-2022 1:28 PM | | AZPaul3 has replied |
| Replies to this message: | | | Message 758 by AZPaul3, posted 10-23-2022 3:17 PM | | Kleinman has replied |
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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 366 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2016
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Message 754 of 2932 (900127)
10-23-2022 2:49 PM
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Reply to: Message 744 by AZPaul3
10-23-2022 1:11 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
AZPaul3:
I understand deflection is your only defense, but it's not working. You cannot absolve your church of its pinnacle position as the most evil force on Earth.
"Absolve", that's an interesting word that you use. Is there anything in your life for which you need absolution?
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 755 of 2932 (900128)
10-23-2022 2:56 PM
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Reply to: Message 751 by Dredge
10-23-2022 2:37 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
It wouldn't surprise me if all your detractors turn out to be atheists. That would be excellent!
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 756 of 2932 (900129)
10-23-2022 3:05 PM
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Reply to: Message 752 by Kleinman
10-23-2022 2:45 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
That last sentence you use in every post of yours sounds like you want war. You may not have noticed since it doesn't involve Kishony, Lenski, or Desai, but there is a war on. I want it stopped. I can see you still have this analysis problem.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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| Replies to this message: | | | Message 760 by Kleinman, posted 10-23-2022 3:18 PM | | AZPaul3 has replied |
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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 366 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2016
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Message 757 of 2932 (900130)
10-23-2022 3:10 PM
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Reply to: Message 751 by Dredge
10-23-2022 2:37 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
Kleinman:
You are talking about an atheist physician that runs studies for the World Health Organisation searching for a durable treatment for malaria and couldn't figure out why his two-drug combination therapy failed.Dredge:
It wouldn't surprise me if all your detractors turn out to be atheists.
It certainly seems that the most vehement detractors are that way. Atheism is self-worship. Notice how AZPaul3 won't admit that his perception of reality isn't perfect. He can't because it is difficult to worship a god that isn't perfect in every way. He complains about all the wars started by the church yet calls for war in every post he makes. And did you notice he used the word "absolve" in one of his posts? That's the kind of terminology is used in the Catholic Church. That and the fact that he uses the name "Paul" leads me to believe that he was raised Catholic. Something happened to him.
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 758 of 2932 (900131)
10-23-2022 3:17 PM
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Reply to: Message 753 by Kleinman
10-23-2022 2:47 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
Do you claim that you have never done evil? Still deflection? In this subtopic your conception of god as portrayed by your creed and the church you support, are evil. What I or Theo or the dog next door think or do has no bearing on anything. You don't seem to understand that. Is this more of your faulty analysis problem?
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 753 by Kleinman, posted 10-23-2022 2:47 PM | | Kleinman has replied |
| Replies to this message: | | | Message 764 by Kleinman, posted 10-23-2022 3:25 PM | | AZPaul3 has replied |
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 759 of 2932 (900132)
10-23-2022 3:18 PM
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Reply to: Message 754 by Kleinman
10-23-2022 2:49 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
See above.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 366 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2016
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Message 760 of 2932 (900133)
10-23-2022 3:18 PM
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Reply to: Message 756 by AZPaul3
10-23-2022 3:05 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
Kleinman:
That last sentence you use in every post of yours sounds like you want war.AZPaul3:
You may not have noticed since it doesn't involve Kishony, Lenski, or Desai, but there is a war on. I want it stopped.
I can see you still have this analysis problem.
So, what's your solution to a border war, a world war? And when are you going to do your analysis of the Kishony, Lenski, or Desai experiments? Start with a simple analysis that explains why it takes a billion replications for each adaptive mutational step in the Kishony experiment.
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 761 of 2932 (900134)
10-23-2022 3:20 PM
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Reply to: Message 757 by Kleinman
10-23-2022 3:10 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
See Message 758.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 762 of 2932 (900135)
10-23-2022 3:22 PM
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Reply to: Message 760 by Kleinman
10-23-2022 3:18 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
You are clinically obsessed aren't you.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9208 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.4
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Message 763 of 2932 (900136)
10-23-2022 3:23 PM
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Reply to: Message 738 by Dredge
10-23-2022 12:03 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
But you have no evidence to back up these assertions do you.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Kleinman
Member (Idle past 366 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2016
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Message 764 of 2932 (900137)
10-23-2022 3:25 PM
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Reply to: Message 758 by AZPaul3
10-23-2022 3:17 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
Kleinman:
Do you claim that you have never done evil?AZPaul3:
Still deflection? In this subtopic your conception of god as portrayed by your creed and the church you support, are evil. What I or Theo or the dog next door think or do has no bearing on anything. You don't seem to understand that. Is this more of your faulty analysis problem?
Why do you think you are better than anyone else? Obviously, your perception of reality is not perfect. Your solution to a border war is a world war. You can't explain how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail. The only thing you are good at seeing is the evil in others but you can't see the evil in yourself.
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 5.1
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Message 765 of 2932 (900138)
10-23-2022 3:30 PM
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Reply to: Message 764 by Kleinman
10-23-2022 3:25 PM
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Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
Why do you think you are better than anyone else? Wow, that faulty analysis problem is severe, isn't it.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 764 by Kleinman, posted 10-23-2022 3:25 PM | | Kleinman has replied |
| Replies to this message: | | | Message 767 by Kleinman, posted 10-23-2022 3:34 PM | | AZPaul3 has replied |
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