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Dredge
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Message 736 of 2932 (900108)
10-23-2022 11:43 AM
Reply to: Message 726 by AZPaul3
10-23-2022 11:19 AM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
AZPaul3 writes:
You're trying to justify your church's evil.
Yep, the Catholic Church is so evil that it is "the largest non-government provider of health care services in the world. It has around 18,000 clinics, 16,000 homes for the elderly and those with special needs, and 5,500 hospitals, with 65 percent of them located in developing countries. In 2010, the Church's Pontifical Council for the Pastoral Care of Health Care Workers said that the Church manages 26% of the world's health care facilities. The Church's involvement in health care has ancient origins."
(Wikipedia, Catholic Church and health care

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AZPaul3
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Message 737 of 2932 (900109)
10-23-2022 11:50 AM
Reply to: Message 736 by Dredge
10-23-2022 11:43 AM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
Yep, the Catholic Church is so evil that it is ...
More deflection. Smoke and mirrors to hide the evil and justify what gets exposed.
You're an altar boy. You know the evil first hand.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Dredge
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Message 738 of 2932 (900110)
10-23-2022 12:03 PM
Reply to: Message 728 by Theodoric
10-23-2022 11:22 AM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
Theodoric writes:
 I have never attempted, wanted or argued that I should impose my moral views on others. 
Really? This is what I learnt from participating in numerous online forums devouted to atheism:
When atheists get together they create totalitarian cults built on Loony-Left "morality" and are ruthlessly intolerant of dissenters.

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Kleinman
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Message 739 of 2932 (900111)
10-23-2022 12:03 PM
Reply to: Message 735 by AZPaul3
10-23-2022 11:37 AM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
AZPaul3:
You are supporting evil. You are trying to justify evil. You are being evil.
And you never support evil, justify evil, and never act evil? Do you think that your perception of reality is perfect?

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Dredge
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Message 740 of 2932 (900112)
10-23-2022 12:08 PM
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10-23-2022 11:50 AM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
"Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter."
Isaiah 5:20

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Message 741 of 2932 (900113)
10-23-2022 12:24 PM
Reply to: Message 739 by Kleinman
10-23-2022 12:03 PM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
What everyone should notice from this subtopic is that neither of you try to deny the evil your creeds propagate. You present only deflection in an attempt to hide from the reality. I find that an interesting admission.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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AZPaul3
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Message 742 of 2932 (900114)
10-23-2022 12:29 PM
Reply to: Message 740 by Dredge
10-23-2022 12:08 PM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
"Woe to those who support the committing of evil by their church. They are the ones who put innocent people to the stake and turn peace into bloody war."
AZPaul3 9:29

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Kleinman
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Message 743 of 2932 (900116)
10-23-2022 1:03 PM
Reply to: Message 741 by AZPaul3
10-23-2022 12:24 PM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
AZPaul3:
What everyone should notice from this subtopic is that neither of you try to deny the evil your creeds propagate. You present only deflection in an attempt to hide from the reality. I find that an interesting admission.
Are you claiming that atheism never propagates evil? And you still haven answered my question, is your perception of reality perfect? And my Bible includes Romans 3:23, Genesis 8:21, Ecclesiastes 7:20, and many more verses like this. Perhaps in your own mind, you do no evil, but you do that by setting your own standards very low.

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AZPaul3
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Message 744 of 2932 (900117)
10-23-2022 1:11 PM
Reply to: Message 743 by Kleinman
10-23-2022 1:03 PM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
I understand deflection is your only defense, but it's not working. You cannot absolve your church of its pinnacle position as the most evil force on Earth.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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AZPaul3
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Message 745 of 2932 (900118)
10-23-2022 1:28 PM
Reply to: Message 743 by Kleinman
10-23-2022 1:03 PM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
And my Bible includes Romans 3:23, Genesis 8:21, Ecclesiastes 7:20, ...
Your bible hasn't anything but fantasy.
From the Secular Bible of Reality, the book of AZPaul3:
" ... for religion is evil and falls short of humanity" AZPaul3 10:15
"And the priests admit their god perpetrated a great evil but tried to cover it blaming the victim for the evil. Such is the evil inclination of the theist." AZPaul3 10:21
"Indeed there is no greater evil in the world than priests passing judgment on all humanity." AZPaul3 10:24

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Dredge
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Message 746 of 2932 (900119)
10-23-2022 1:45 PM
Reply to: Message 741 by AZPaul3
10-23-2022 12:24 PM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
AZPaul3 writes:
What everyone should notice from this subtopic is that neither of you try to deny the evil your creeds propagate.
It's a case of, why dignify your demented accusations with a response?

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Dredge
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Message 747 of 2932 (900120)
10-23-2022 1:49 PM
Reply to: Message 743 by Kleinman
10-23-2022 1:03 PM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
Kleinman writes:
Are you claiming that atheism never propagates evil?
Those Communists were real angels - in the 20th century, they killed only about 100 million people and ruined every economy they touched.

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Dredge
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Message 748 of 2932 (900121)
10-23-2022 1:58 PM
Reply to: Message 745 by AZPaul3
10-23-2022 1:28 PM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
“Blessed are you when men revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account.  Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for so men persecuted the prophets who were before you."
Matthew 5:11-12

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AZPaul3
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Message 749 of 2932 (900122)
10-23-2022 2:03 PM
Reply to: Message 746 by Dredge
10-23-2022 1:45 PM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
You don't need to dignify anything. History has already made the judgment of your church's bloody past and present. I thought you might want to try denying that past since your religion allows such flights of fancy.
I find the fact that you don't attempt denial interesting. I think you know the evil your church created and maintains.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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AZPaul3
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Message 750 of 2932 (900123)
10-23-2022 2:12 PM
Reply to: Message 748 by Dredge
10-23-2022 1:58 PM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
"Cursed are you when giving support to your churches evil deeds. Hang your head in shame for the harm you have done to humanity and perpetrate thru your errant prophets."
AZPaul3 11:11-12

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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