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Dredge
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Message 706 of 2932 (900073)
10-23-2022 12:35 AM
Reply to: Message 704 by AZPaul3
10-22-2022 11:45 PM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
So the point of human sacrifice is irrelevant. Wow.

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AZPaul3
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Message 707 of 2932 (900074)
10-23-2022 12:55 AM
Reply to: Message 705 by Dredge
10-23-2022 12:24 AM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
I condemn your god.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Dredge
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Message 708 of 2932 (900075)
10-23-2022 1:16 AM
Reply to: Message 707 by AZPaul3
10-23-2022 12:55 AM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
You know that your reasoning is biased and intellectually dishonest, yet you persist. Not a good advertisement for your character.

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AZPaul3
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Message 709 of 2932 (900076)
10-23-2022 2:58 AM
Reply to: Message 708 by Dredge
10-23-2022 1:16 AM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
Regardless, your god is a fraud born from the darkest hate of men's minds.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Dredge
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Message 710 of 2932 (900077)
10-23-2022 4:02 AM
Reply to: Message 709 by AZPaul3
10-23-2022 2:58 AM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
Satan has poisoned your mind. Very sad.

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Kleinman
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Message 711 of 2932 (900081)
10-23-2022 8:42 AM
Reply to: Message 709 by AZPaul3
10-23-2022 2:58 AM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
AZPaul3:
Regardless, your god is a fraud born from the darkest hate of men's minds.
And there is no hate in your mind?

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AZPaul3
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Message 712 of 2932 (900083)
10-23-2022 9:15 AM
Reply to: Message 711 by Kleinman
10-23-2022 8:42 AM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
The idea of gods, your god especially, has poisoned the mind of the entire species. Substituting fantasy for reality has let the warlords and the priests subjugate whole societies and make war with impunity. Your god is the bloodiest most hateful evil conception ever to enter the human mind.
My “hate” for theism is mild in comparison to what has been practiced and perpetrate by religion’s faithful over millennia. Intellectual opposition only incents theists to greater violence. Having no hold on reality allows them to justify their evil through their fantasy. Hate is in your god. Evil is Her name.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Kleinman
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Message 713 of 2932 (900085)
10-23-2022 9:37 AM
Reply to: Message 712 by AZPaul3
10-23-2022 9:15 AM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
AZPaul3:
The idea of gods, your god especially, has poisoned the mind of the entire species. Substituting fantasy for reality has let the warlords and the priests subjugate whole societies and make war with impunity. Your god is the bloodiest most hateful evil conception ever to enter the human mind.

My “hate” for theism is mild in comparison to what has been practiced and perpetrate by religion’s faithful over millennia. Intellectual opposition only incents theists to greater violence. Having no hold on reality allows them to justify their evil through their fantasy. Hate is in your god. Evil is Her name.
Do atheists have a perfect understanding of reality and never sin?

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AZPaul3
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Message 714 of 2932 (900086)
10-23-2022 9:40 AM
Reply to: Message 713 by Kleinman
10-23-2022 9:37 AM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
What sin?

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Kleinman
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Message 715 of 2932 (900087)
10-23-2022 9:58 AM
Reply to: Message 714 by AZPaul3
10-23-2022 9:40 AM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
AZPaul3:
What sin?
What you call evil.

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Theodoric
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Message 716 of 2932 (900088)
10-23-2022 10:22 AM
Reply to: Message 715 by Kleinman
10-23-2022 9:58 AM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
Sin ≠ Evil. Sin is a religious construct with little relation to reality. Yes murder is considered a sin, but so are things like blasphemy, masturbation and homosexuality. None of those are evil.
So please try to define sin again.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Kleinman
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Message 717 of 2932 (900089)
10-23-2022 10:29 AM
Reply to: Message 716 by Theodoric
10-23-2022 10:22 AM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
Theodoric:
Sin ≠ Evil. Sin is a religious construct with little relation to reality. Yes murder is considered a sin, but so are things like blasphemy, masturbation and homosexuality. None of those are evil.
So please try to define sin again.
Why do you get the right to define what is evil and what isn't?

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Theodoric
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Message 718 of 2932 (900090)
10-23-2022 10:50 AM
Reply to: Message 717 by Kleinman
10-23-2022 10:29 AM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
I get to define what is evil for me. Do you think you and your religion get to define what is evil for others.
I can blaspheme and masturbate and go to gay marriages all I want. No evil at all.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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AZPaul3
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Message 719 of 2932 (900091)
10-23-2022 10:52 AM
Reply to: Message 715 by Kleinman
10-23-2022 9:58 AM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
Don’t try to make your concept of sin equal to evil. Sin is a transgression against what the priests want. Evil is the existence of priests and their penchant for violence to preserve their religious fantasies and control of society.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Dredge
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Message 720 of 2932 (900092)
10-23-2022 11:05 AM
Reply to: Message 713 by Kleinman
10-23-2022 9:37 AM


Re: Kleinman does not think mutations can be passed down to descendants
You've got to stop reading those atheist comic books. They've filled your head with lies and nonsense about your Creator.

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