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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
dwise1 writes:
Thus, according to dwise1 logic, an actual Christian would believe that Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead by using natural processes. An actual creationist would believe that The Creator created The Creation as it is and as it works. As Mr. Spock used to say, "Fascinating ... but illogical."
Since The Creator created those very physical processes producing life from non-life, then abiogenesis would actually serve as witness for The Creator.
An atheist preaching about God's creation ... you're a fake atheist!!
But willfully stupid fake creationists like you insist that abiogenesis through natural processes disprove God.
Really? I didn't know that. Btw, I'm not a "willfully" stupid creationist ... I was born stupid.
Learn the difference between single-step selection and cumulative selection -- refer to my pages starting at MONKEY for a more complete explanation
Sorry, but I've better things to do than read atheist fairy tales about how life began.
which I have absolutely no doubt that you are too afraid of to read
Yep, I would find your fairy tales terrifying.
I really do wish, though, that you fucking willfully stupid creationists will one day finally pull your collective heads out and wake up.
Thank you for your kind wishes.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
dwise1 writes:
Well of course you think the mathematics of God is "complete and utter bullshit ... utterly false ... completely useless" - you're an atheist. So then you are defining "the mathematics of God" as complete and utter bullshit which is not only utterly false but also completely useless. You mock what you don't understand and what God has hidden from you.
God Herself
Please keep your feminist crap to yourself. Feminism is demonic poison.
If you know nothing about what you are fighting against, then how could you ever possibly hope to fight against it?
I can't believe this much entertainment is free!
That makes you nothing more than the most incredibly stupid fucking idiot of all time. Just roll over and let your enemy disembowel you right on the spot. And rightfully so! You have absolutely no desire to oppose any opponent! You just want to be killed off! Pathetic!
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vimesey Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 1398 From: Birmingham, England Joined:
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Feminism is demonic poison. Your entertainment value has vanished with this. You're a vile human being. My engagement with you is at an end.Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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You have to remember you are talking to a meat-cracker eating catholic. Of course you will find misogyny. These guys invented it. Another evil perpetrated by god and Her retinue of demons.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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vimesey Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 1398 From: Birmingham, England Joined:
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Yep - and in Australia, misogyny is one of the main national pastimes, as I understand it.
Australia’s above-average sexism highlighted in global reportCould there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?
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Kleinman Member (Idle past 366 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
AZPaul3:Silly boy, you left out the vanity journal part of your claim. AZPaul3:You are talking about an atheist physician that runs studies for the World Health Organisation searching for a durable treatment for malaria and couldn't figure out why his two-drug combination therapy failed. It was his failure that inspired the writing of this paper: The mathematics of random mutation and natural selection for multiple simultaneous selection pressures and the evolution of antimicrobial drug resistance Too bad biologists failed to explain to him how drug resistance evolves. AZPaul3:I've already given you positive responses, pay attention. It takes time to explain why universal common descent is not true for biologists that are poorly trained in mathematics and physics. That's why biologists have failed to correctly explain why drug resistance evolves and cancer treatments fail. Biologists don't understand how descent with modification works.
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Kleinman Member (Idle past 366 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
AZPaul3:So, the mathematician that doesn't do the mathematics of biology thinks that Joshua Swamidass's claim that humans and chimps are related using the mathematics of neutral evolution and Joe Felsenstein does his mathematics of inferential phylogenetics by nonrandom sampling of his data is the way to prove universal common descent? Try doing the math nwr. if you can.
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Kleinman Member (Idle past 366 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
AZPaul3:Don't blame me if biologists are slow learning why drug resistance evolves or why cancer treatments fail. If biologists had some descent training in math and physics, they could explain how descent with modification works. At least Taq now understands, you, Tany is quite a bit slower. You know Tany, I wrote a couple of paragraphs to help novices like you to understand how descent with modification works. Here it is: Kleinman:Understand rubberband? nwr:While you are mulling, why don't you mull over how drug resistance evolves and why cancer treatments fail? You might actually learn how descent with modification works. Taq finally understands. When are the rest of you biologists going to figure it out?
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Kleinman Member (Idle past 366 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
Theodoric:Felsenstein booted me from his forum because I told him he was going to be held accountable for his blunders. Felsenstein doesn't like hearing that. Felsenstein refuses to do the mathematics for the Kishony and Lenski experiments. He says it would take too long. Doing the mathematics of those two experiments is not much more than homework problems. If you don't correlate your mathematical models with experimental evidence is the formula for GIGO and that's what Felsenstein is doing. His biggest mathematical blunder is not random sampling his data when doing his inferential phylogenetics. If nwr is really a mathematician, he should understand that is a beginner student type blunder. But nwr doesn't do the mathematics of biology.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Hilarious.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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Felsenstein refuses to do the mathematics for the Kishony and Lenski experiments. Obsessed Johnny Onenote.
I've already given you positive responses, pay attention. No you haven't. All you have given us is disingenuous excuses and lies. You cannot provide any positive feedback from the science community on your drivel. The community has rejected your analysis and has ignored you since.
Biologists don't understand how descent with modification works. Of course that makes you a martyr and a hero. The know-nothing world-wide discipline of thousands of biologists are all wrong. Only you are right. You're an idiot. No one accepts your crap. You are reduced to shouting silently into the void. How many forums have rejected your presence? Include EvC. Edited by AZPaul3, . Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Dredge Member (Idle past 104 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
vimesey writes:
That's pretty funny. Are you so clueless as to believe everything a bunch of mad feminists tell you? (Actually "mad feminists" is a tautology - all feminists are mad.) in Australia, misogyny is one of the main national pastimes, as I understand it.Australia’s above-average sexism highlighted in global report Speaking of misogyny, feminism hates women so much that it wants to turn women into something they're not. Is there anything more unnatural, insane and satanic than feminism? "The feminists hate me, don’t they? And I don’t blame them. For I hate feminism. It is poison."Margaret Thatcher, former Prime Minster of the United Kingdom Margaret Thatcher: The Glass-Ceiling Shatterer Who Thought Feminism Was 'Poison' - Ms. Magazine
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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Is there anything more unnatural, insane and satanic than feminism? The catholic church. The greatest evil on Earth.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 5.3
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So, the mathematician that doesn't do the mathematics of biology thinks that Joshua Swamidass's claim that humans and chimps are related using the mathematics of neutral evolution and Joe Felsenstein does his mathematics of inferential phylogenetics by nonrandom sampling of his data is the way to prove universal common descent? Stop trying to tell me what I think. Your incompetence at mind reading is exceeded only by your incompetence at understanding evolution.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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Kleinman Member (Idle past 366 days) Posts: 2142 From: United States Joined: |
Kleinman:At least I have a note, biologists don't. And I don't blame biologists for not doing the mathematics for the Kishony and Lenski experiments. Why would they want to produce evidence that universal common descent is not possible? Of course, if you think that universal common descent is possible, present the mathematical and experimental evidence for your belief. You won't and Taq knows why. Kleinman:It doesn't help if I repeat myself to you, you are just to slow a learner. Just because biologists don't understand the physics and mathematics of biological evolution doesn't make my mathematical explanation of experiments such as Kishony's and Lenski's wrong. They (and you) just refuse to accept the mathematical and physical facts of life. You need to take a course in introductory probability theory and learn what the effect of the multiplication rule is on joint random adaptive mutations. It's really not that difficult. Even Taq understands this. Kleinman:AZPaul3, you can believe that the earth is flat but don't teach that to naive school children as scientific fact. And I'm not the martyr, it's those dying of drug-resistant infections and failed cancer treatments, a phenomenon caused by descent with modification, a subject that biologists fail to teach properly to naive school children.
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