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Topic: The Meaning Of The Trinity
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 6.6
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Message 616 of 1864 (899504)
10-15-2022 12:26 PM
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Reply to: Message 612 by candle2
10-15-2022 11:59 AM
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Re: Jewish chronicles and the big JC
Oh, god, what a load of crap. People actually believe this shit like it's real. Sick intellects easily manipulated by the most fucked up fantasies. So disconnected from the reality of this world they read this shit as history. You are a psychologically destroyed individual in desperate need of professional help and medication. Strong medication. Blinding psychoactives with heavy barbiturates.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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dwise1
Member Posts: 6077 Joined: 05-02-2006 Member Rating: 7.1
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Message 617 of 1864 (899506)
10-15-2022 12:34 PM
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Reply to: Message 612 by candle2
10-15-2022 11:59 AM
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Re: Jewish chronicles and the big JC
More contrary-tp-fact nonsense (ie, false) wrong interpretation based on religious BS.
We know the history of the Holy Roman Empire so we know that what you keep blather is pure nonsense even if you don't and refuse to even try to learn. Your entire fantasy has nothing to do with the Holy Roman Empire except for you to claim things about it that are clearly contrary to historical fact. At the very least admit that you are talking about something entirely different! As I've told you before and now must do so yet again, how could you ever expect us to trust what you say when you talk about things that we cannot verify when everything you say that we CAN verify all turn out to be either wrong or downright false? Based on past experience with you, we can very safely assume that you don't really know anything about those things either.
Jessica H. Christ, man! Pull your head out and LEARN SOME HISTORY! And you are still avoiding your glaringly blatant falsehoods about "flaws in dating", which is not surprising since you have nothing and even you know that. If you know of any actual flaws, then present them and include the reasoning behind presenting them as flaws. IOW, you need to demonstrate enough knowledge of those "flaws" to be able to discuss them and to support your contention that they present some kind of problem. IOW, stop playing your game of the willfully ignorant (your handlers) leading the willfully stupid (you). Got nothing? Thought so!
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candle2
Member (Idle past 131 days) Posts: 892 Joined: 12-31-2018
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Message 618 of 1864 (899512)
10-15-2022 3:11 PM
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Reply to: Message 616 by AZPaul3
10-15-2022 12:26 PM
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Re: Jewish chronicles and the big JC
AZPaul3, read your post and then tell me who needs the help. Learn to control your rage.
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candle2
Member (Idle past 131 days) Posts: 892 Joined: 12-31-2018
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Message 619 of 1864 (899513)
10-15-2022 3:28 PM
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Reply to: Message 617 by dwise1
10-15-2022 12:34 PM
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Re: Jewish chronicles and the big JC
Dwise 1, this isn't a thread about evolution, nor is it a thread about ridiculous dating techniques. Stop pretending that evolutionists have crystal balls that can tell us exactly what happened and when it happened. However, I will state my objections to carbon-dating methods as soon as my wife and I return from our vacation. Study assumptions.
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dwise1
Member Posts: 6077 Joined: 05-02-2006 Member Rating: 7.1
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Message 620 of 1864 (899514)
10-15-2022 3:41 PM
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Reply to: Message 619 by candle2
10-15-2022 3:28 PM
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Re: Jewish chronicles and the big JC
We have HISTORY! LEARN IT! But no, you'll just keep spinning your fantasy tales which contradict HISTORY.
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Phat
Member Posts: 18651 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: 12-30-2003 Member Rating: 4.2
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Message 621 of 1864 (899515)
10-15-2022 4:05 PM
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Reply to: Message 455 by ringo
08-07-2020 9:38 PM
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efense Attorneys
This rabbit trail reminds me of a music video by Carman. This Goober In essence, God serves three roles in the Courtroom. The Judge, The Prosecution and the Defense Attorney.
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 6.6
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Message 622 of 1864 (899516)
10-15-2022 4:07 PM
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Reply to: Message 618 by candle2
10-15-2022 3:11 PM
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Re: Jewish chronicles and the big JC
AZPaul3, read your post and then tell me who needs
the help.
Oh, that's right. Reading comprehension problems. What I said was, "YOU NEED HELP YOU CRAZY IDIOT!!"
Learn to control your rage. You mistake pity for rage. I recoil from your stupidity and I pity the depth of your cluelessness. I'm not mad at you, you stunningly dense evil religious puppet. I pity the world having to put up with you and your evil brethren. You are intellectual poison to humanity.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Phat
Member Posts: 18651 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: 12-30-2003 Member Rating: 4.2
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Message 623 of 1864 (899517)
10-15-2022 4:08 PM
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Reply to: Message 616 by AZPaul3
10-15-2022 12:26 PM
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Re: Jewish chronicles and the big JC
I don't know about him, but perhaps I could try Psychedelic Therapy!  Hey, it worked when I was 20, before meeting Jesus.  And I'm not agreeing with Candle2 either. I'll get to him later after work.
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).
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Phat
Member Posts: 18651 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: 12-30-2003 Member Rating: 4.2
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Message 624 of 1864 (899518)
10-15-2022 4:12 PM
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Reply to: Message 622 by AZPaul3
10-15-2022 4:07 PM
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Re: Jewish chronicles and the big JC
dwise1 writes: I'm not mad at you, you stunningly dense evil religious puppet. I pity the world having to put up with you and your evil brethren. . Im heading to work now. My grocery store merged with the other giant in town, pending Approval. But that's a whole nother topic. 
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 6.6
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Message 625 of 1864 (899519)
10-15-2022 4:59 PM
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Reply to: Message 619 by candle2
10-15-2022 3:28 PM
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Re: Jewish chronicles and the big JC
Stop pretending that evolutionists have crystal balls
that can tell us exactly what happened and when it
happened. Avoiding an obvious joke, yes, we do have crystal balls. They are called museums, universities and like that. Loaded with millions of fossils and lots of people way smarter than you we get to look into the past, see the present and predict the future. You are so far behind the reality of our knowledge you, of all people on this planet, have no way to challenge any of it.
However, I will state my objections to carbon-dating
methods as soon as my wife and I return from our
vacation. Why? It will just be lies, half truths, misunderstandings, misinformation and religious bluster. Not worth the electrons. Don't bother.
Study assumptions. Study reality, you imbecilic fool.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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PaulK
Member Posts: 17919 Joined: 01-10-2003 Member Rating: 6.6
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Message 626 of 1864 (899520)
10-15-2022 5:24 PM
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Reply to: Message 612 by candle2
10-15-2022 11:59 AM
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Re: Jewish chronicles and the big JC
quote:
Dwise 1, in Daniel 2, King Nebuchadnezzar had a dream
about a great image
Indeed, but the interpretation you offer fits poorly with the text of Daniel.
quote:
Verse 40: "And the fourth Kingdom shall be strong as
iron: formasmuch as iron breakest in pieces and
subdues all things: and as iron that breaks all these,
shall it break in pieces and bruise."
Verse 41: "And whereas thou saw the feet and toes,
part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom
shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength
of the iron, formasmuch as thou saw the iron mixed
with Mary clay."
Verse 42: "And as the toes of the feet were part of iron,
and part of clay, so the Kingdom shall be partly strong,
and partly broken."
Verse 44: "And in the days of these kings (10) shall the
God of heaven set up a Kingdom, which shall never be
destroyed:
As is clear from the text of Daniel these verses refer not to the Roman Empire but to the Greek kingdoms formed from the division of Alexander’s Empire. See for instance Daniel 8 - explicitly an End Times prophecy (8:17) and clearly set at the time of those Kingdoms (8:21-23). I would also point out that confusing the Roman Empire with the (thoroughly misnamed) Holy Roman Empire does you no favours at all. There is no real connection between the two
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dwise1
Member Posts: 6077 Joined: 05-02-2006 Member Rating: 7.1
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Message 627 of 1864 (899526)
10-15-2022 6:32 PM
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Reply to: Message 624 by Phat
10-15-2022 4:12 PM
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Re: Jewish chronicles and the big JC
Uh, AZPaul3 said that, not I!
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Dredge
Member Posts: 2855 From: Australia Joined: 09-06-2016
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Message 628 of 1864 (899527)
10-15-2022 9:02 PM
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Reply to: Message 625 by AZPaul3
10-15-2022 4:59 PM
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Re: Jewish chronicles and the big JC
AZPaul3 writes: we do have crystal balls. They are called museums, universities and like that. Loaded with millions of fossils and lots of people way smarter than you we get to look into the past
Fossils offer us only a very limited understanding of the past. For starters, they offer only peroidic snapshots of what happened ... they don't tell us what happened between the snapshots, which could be millions of years apart. Furthermore, the hypothesis that one fossil represents the evolutionary ancestor/descendant of another fossil cannot be tested. Even if it could be proven that Fossil A is the evolutionary ancestor of Fossil B, they tell us nothing about how B evolved from A. Science can use fossils in arriving at the best scientific explanation for what happened in the past, but that doesn't mean that explanation is an accurate representation of the truth. No one can prove anything, so it all boils down to believing what you want to believe. Atheists (which includes most evolutionary scientists) religiously believe and preach the Darwinist version of history and think the god of science has all the answers ... which is bs-fantasy bcoz it's impossible for anyone to know what really happened.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 669 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 629 of 1864 (899528)
10-15-2022 9:19 PM
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Reply to: Message 621 by Phat
10-15-2022 4:05 PM
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Re: efense Attorneys
Phat writes: In essence, God serves three roles in the Courtroom. The Judge, The Prosecution and the Defense Attorney.
Not much of a Defense Attorney. He never gets anybody off, does He? And you left out Executioner. Your analogy reminds me of one of those hillbilly small-town speed traps.
"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys
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ringo
Member (Idle past 669 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 630 of 1864 (899529)
10-15-2022 9:25 PM
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Reply to: Message 628 by Dredge
10-15-2022 9:02 PM
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Re: Jewish chronicles and the big JC
Dredge writes: Furthermore, the hypothesis that one fossil represents the evolutionary ancestor/descendant of another fossil cannot be tested.
What kind of test do you think there should be?
"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys
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