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dwise1 Member Posts: 6076 Joined: Member Rating: 7.3 |
I'll go back to an older message and Peek it. What I get is basically what you see when you try to view a raw text file in an web browser: a complete run-on mess (and I tend to write like a German, so for me to complain of run-on must be really major).
Sure, all the <P> tags are in place, but it just looks like a huge mess so that the formatted portion that we're peeking for is hidden. I am not sure if there's a distinction between older (ie, pre-whatever version) and newer (ie, post-whatever the previous was) peeked messages. But it is a bit of a pain to have to deal with that.
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Admin Director Posts: 13107 From: EvC Forum Joined: |
Should be working now, but only after you do a hard reload, which for Safari I think is hold down CMD and Option while clicking on the refresh icon in the address bar. In Chrome you only have to hold down Shift. The display of images in old messages won't change unless they're rerendered (do an edit/submit cycle).
This problem affected smilies because their path was defined using "http" instead of "https". For security reasons, "https" pages wont fetch "http" images. This is fixed. Also, missing images are now a link to the missing image's URL, and if you right click on the missing image you can copy the URL for the image by selecting "Copy Link Address" (Chrome) or " Copy Link" (Safari) in the context menu.
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Admin Director Posts: 13107 From: EvC Forum Joined: |
I poked around a bit and wasn't able to find an old message with peek misbehavior. If you give me the message ID (in faint text in parens next to "Message m of n" at the upper left of the message) I'll take a look.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9580 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 6.8 |
Working now, well done :-)
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine. "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 6076 Joined: Member Rating: 7.3 |
It has happened to me a few times. Edge on Windows 10.
The latest encounter was for my Message 87 ("Message 110 of 111") posted 10-Jul-2021 1:23 PM (PDT) in There are easy creationist answers to problems evolutionists pose. When I viewed that in Peek Mode (ie, click on the Peek button at the bottom), I get this (excerpt -- square and angle brackets replaced by HTML entity codes):
quote: I also just tried editing that old message and the edit box does the same thing. What just happened in this reply is odd:
The latest encounter was for my Message 87 ("Message 110 of 111") posted 10-Jul-2021 1:23 PM (PDT) in There are easy creationist answers to problems evolutionists pose. The original message is very clearly displayed as "Message 110 of 111" and it gives its message ID as (885956). But when I copy and paste it directly into an mid tag, it displays here as "Message 87". Why would it do that? When I submit this reply, I am going to try that mid link and see where it takes me. Hasta luego. ----------------- Afterwards: That link did indeed take me to Message 87 of that same topic. But this is what I see in the title block:
quote: A message ID of zero? Going from there to my message 110, I still get this:
quote: That is the message ID that I had tried to link to. Along the way at the top of that last page in that topic, I spotted my Message 106:
quote: Some kind of message database corruption?Edited by dwise1, : Afterword from testing that link Edited by dwise1, : Platform info added in first paragraph
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Admin Director Posts: 13107 From: EvC Forum Joined: |
Thanks, I got it. It affects all messages in the message ID range 884952 to 894171. I'm cleaning up something else right now, will clean this up next.
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Admin Director Posts: 13107 From: EvC Forum Joined: |
Should have responded to this:
dwise1 writes: Some kind of message database corruption? Messages are rendered into their final form before being saved to the database. Bread crumbs of the original form entered by the user are left behind so that the message can be transformed back for editing and peek. This year I made a change in stages to the way messages are represented in their final rendered form, and somehow messages from roughly March 16, 2021 to May 3, 2022 were all affected in this way. It's probably a case of me carrying out one of the transformations on the wrong range of messages. It's easily fixed by a script that rerenders the messages. This transformation required that different message ranges be treated differently because of the way dBCodes and formatting evolved over the years. For example, few remember that you used to be able to refer to a message in another thread by saying [msg=4,6153,17] where the first argument is the forum ID, the second the thread ID, and the third the message number. This form is still accepted but deprecated (and it doesn't produce a link to the right message right now, something else I'm looking at). Now the recommended way to link to a message in another thread is to use the [mid] dBCode. When I'm done all messages should be represented in the same form in the database. It shouldn't cause any changes visible to users, assuming I make no more mistakes.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 6076 Joined: Member Rating: 7.3
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It shouldn't cause any changes visible to users, assuming I make no more mistakes. Tshirt:
quote: BTW, I'm a retired software engineer, though I mainly worked in embedded projects, close to the metal. My EE co-worker had that song displayed in his office.
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Admin Director Posts: 13107 From: EvC Forum Joined: |
Peek and edit should now work properly for all messages. Please report any problems to this thread.
AbE: I think the message you were most interested in was Message 110. AbE2: You're going to prefer the edit version if you're interested in the <pre> section because peek doesn't preserve the white space.Edited by Admin, : AbE. Edited by Admin, : AbE2.
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Percy Member Posts: 22941 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 7.0
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How about this version:
99 bugs in the code that I wrote, 99 bugs in the code. Take one down, patch it around, 9C bugs in the code that I wrote. You might get a grin out of this ancient true story since it goes back to when cramming programs into tiny memories was a valuable skill. The company where I first worked had a legend with a rule named after him: Any program of n bytes can be rewritten in n-1 bytes. There was a recent article in Scientific American about the Voyagers that had a nice comparison: Their computers have less memory than your key fob. --Percy
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Admin Director Posts: 13107 From: EvC Forum Joined: |
The way the peek text of a message is displayed when you hit the peek button beneath the message has changed so that white space is now preserved.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 6.8 |
so that white space is now preserved. Umm, not so good. I looked at a long message with lots of quotes and got a very narrow, but very long long window with all the texted crammed inside. But the narrow little window is all white going down, down, down the page. Is this right? It is nicely formatted in the window. The white space makes it easier to see the edit commands. But you have to scroll down a good 2 meters to see the bottom. Give or take. Edited by AZPaul3, . Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Admin Director Posts: 13107 From: EvC Forum Joined: |
Thanks for noticing. I forgot to mention that you'll need to do a hard reload so that the CSS loads again. For Chrome hold down shift and hit the reload icon. For Safari I think it's CMD+Shift plus the reload icon. Other browsers are similar. Let me know if that works for you.
Also, when replying to a message the message you're replying to can be optionally displayed in peek mode by selecting the Peek Mode radio button. This has also been updated so that it preserves white space.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8654 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 6.8 |
Now that is good. I like it. Thank you.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Admin Director Posts: 13107 From: EvC Forum Joined: |
I just released a minor improvement to the message hoverboxes. They now contain the message date and author.
Messages in search results didn't used to have hoverboxes and now they do. The size of webpages with many hoverboxes, such as a page of messages for a thread, are about 4% or 5% smaller, not enough to be noticeable. Please report any problems here.
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