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Message 74 of 131 (898934)
10-03-2022 5:09 PM
Reply to: Message 73 by Tangle
10-03-2022 4:44 PM


Re: Minor Update Just Released
I just paged through the humor thread (lots of images) and couldn't duplicate the problem, even with Safari 15.6.1, but it's not impossible there's some Javascript issue that only presents itself under certain circumstances. If you can provide an example image link I'll see what I can figure out.

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Message 77 of 131 (898945)
10-04-2022 9:59 AM
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10-03-2022 5:20 PM


Re: Minor Update Just Released
Should be working now, but only after you do a hard reload, which for Safari I think is hold down CMD and Option while clicking on the refresh icon in the address bar. In Chrome you only have to hold down Shift. The display of images in old messages won't change unless they're rerendered (do an edit/submit cycle).
This problem affected smilies because their path was defined using "http" instead of "https". For security reasons, "https" pages wont fetch "http" images. This is fixed.
Also, missing images are now a link to the missing image's URL, and if you right click on the missing image you can copy the URL for the image by selecting "Copy Link Address" (Chrome) or " Copy Link" (Safari) in the context menu.

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Message 78 of 131 (898946)
10-04-2022 10:06 AM
Reply to: Message 76 by dwise1
10-03-2022 5:35 PM


Re: Non-Human-Friendly Peek Results
I poked around a bit and wasn't able to find an old message with peek misbehavior. If you give me the message ID (in faint text in parens next to "Message m of n" at the upper left of the message) I'll take a look.

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Message 81 of 131 (898967)
10-04-2022 9:15 PM
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10-04-2022 1:07 PM


Re: Non-Human-Friendly Peek Results
Thanks, I got it. It affects all messages in the message ID range 884952 to 894171. I'm cleaning up something else right now, will clean this up next.

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Message 82 of 131 (898976)
10-05-2022 8:14 AM
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10-04-2022 1:07 PM


Re: Non-Human-Friendly Peek Results
Should have responded to this:
dwise1 writes:
Some kind of message database corruption?
Messages are rendered into their final form before being saved to the database. Bread crumbs of the original form entered by the user are left behind so that the message can be transformed back for editing and peek.
This year I made a change in stages to the way messages are represented in their final rendered form, and somehow messages from roughly March 16, 2021 to May 3, 2022 were all affected in this way. It's probably a case of me carrying out one of the transformations on the wrong range of messages. It's easily fixed by a script that rerenders the messages.
This transformation required that different message ranges be treated differently because of the way dBCodes and formatting evolved over the years. For example, few remember that you used to be able to refer to a message in another thread by saying [msg=4,6153,17] where the first argument is the forum ID, the second the thread ID, and the third the message number. This form is still accepted but deprecated (and it doesn't produce a link to the right message right now, something else I'm looking at). Now the recommended way to link to a message in another thread is to use the [mid] dBCode.
When I'm done all messages should be represented in the same form in the database. It shouldn't cause any changes visible to users, assuming I make no more mistakes.

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Message 84 of 131 (899054)
10-07-2022 8:54 PM
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10-05-2022 10:09 AM


Re: Non-Human-Friendly Peek Results
Peek and edit should now work properly for all messages. Please report any problems to this thread.
AbE: I think the message you were most interested in was Message 110.
AbE2: You're going to prefer the edit version if you're interested in the <pre> section because peek doesn't preserve the white space.

Edited by Admin, : AbE.

Edited by Admin, : AbE2.


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Message 86 of 131 (899075)
10-08-2022 9:36 AM


Peek Improvement
The way the peek text of a message is displayed when you hit the peek button beneath the message has changed so that white space is now preserved.

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Message 88 of 131 (899079)
10-08-2022 10:37 AM
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10-08-2022 10:23 AM


Re: Peek Improvement
Thanks for noticing. I forgot to mention that you'll need to do a hard reload so that the CSS loads again. For Chrome hold down shift and hit the reload icon. For Safari I think it's CMD+Shift plus the reload icon. Other browsers are similar. Let me know if that works for you.
Also, when replying to a message the message you're replying to can be optionally displayed in peek mode by selecting the Peek Mode radio button. This has also been updated so that it preserves white space.

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Message 90 of 131 (899366)
10-12-2022 5:56 PM


Hoverbox Improvement Released
I just released a minor improvement to the message hoverboxes. They now contain the message date and author.
Messages in search results didn't used to have hoverboxes and now they do.
The size of webpages with many hoverboxes, such as a page of messages for a thread, are about 4% or 5% smaller, not enough to be noticeable.
Please report any problems here.

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Message 92 of 131 (899371)
10-12-2022 7:29 PM
Reply to: Message 91 by AZPaul3
10-12-2022 7:17 PM


Re: Hoverbox Improvement Released
Thanks for calling attention to this. I again forgot to note that you have to do a hard reload in order to get the new version of the Javascript code. On Chrome and Firefox hit reload while holding down the shift button. On Safari hold down Cmd+Shift. Other browsers probably something similar.

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Message 103 of 131 (899583)
10-16-2022 11:18 AM
Reply to: Message 102 by Tanypteryx
10-16-2022 10:52 AM


Tanypteryx writes:
That's cause you're special!
Not that he's not special, but it worked because he tested it after I released the fix around 10:30 EST this morning. All hoverboxes should be working now. Please report any non-working hoverboxes here.

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Message 109 of 131 (899649)
10-17-2022 7:51 AM
Reply to: Message 108 by Minnemooseus
10-16-2022 11:12 PM


I see the problem, will try to fix it this morning.

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Message 110 of 131 (899653)
10-17-2022 8:47 AM
Reply to: Message 108 by Minnemooseus
10-16-2022 11:12 PM


Problem is fixed.
My guess is you were logged out. When logged out the date was being fetched incorrectly, causing Javascript syntax problems.

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Message 112 of 131 (899715)
10-18-2022 8:58 AM
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10-17-2022 6:13 PM


Minnemooseus writes:
I was logged in from my perspective, but maybe I had timed out and wasn't logged in from the forum's perspective.
If you think you were logged in then it is extremely likely that you were. The default is to log people out automatically after a year of no activity. The cookies that determine login status have a 1-year lifetime.
There may be other causes of the behavior other than not being logged in, but that was the only one I was able to identify.

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Message 113 of 131 (899850)
10-20-2022 8:17 AM


More Minor Hoverbox Improvements
The hoverboxes for thread names now include the originator and the origin date. Do a hard reload to also see extremely minute improvements in formatting.

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