It has happened to me a few times.
Edge on Windows 10.
The latest encounter was for my
Message 87 ("Message 110 of 111") posted 10-Jul-2021 1:23 PM (PDT) in
There are easy creationist answers to problems evolutionists pose. When I viewed that in Peek Mode (ie, click on the Peek button at the bottom), I get this (excerpt -- square and angle brackets replaced by HTML entity codes):
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[qs][b]Sunday, May 9, 2021<br>1:00 PM to 3:00 PM PDT<br>on ZOOM<p>Dr. Eugenie Scott: What people get wrong – and sometimes right – about evolution[/b]<p>[quote]The Humanist Association of San Diego is proud to bring to our Southern California community the former Executive Director of the National Center for Science Education: Dr. Eugenie Scott.<p>Among scientific theories, evolution is one that everyone “knows”. But lots of what people “know” about evolution isn’t so: it’s scientifically unsupported or wildly misunderstood. And sometimes the tidbit of information is wrong, but there’s an underlying grain of accuracy. After spending over 30 years explaining evolution to the public, I’ve learned a few things about what people get wrong, and I have some ideas about why. I also have some suggestions for communicating evolution better, should you be in a situation where you might be able to steer someone in a more accurate direction.[/quote][/qs]<p>I apologize for letting two months to pass before writing my review of Dr. Eugenie Scott's 09 May 21 ZOOM presentation. While I did take notes, most of the following will be from memory. The quality will suffer, but I'll do the best I can.<p>In the following, I will be describing Dr. Scott's presentation, but at times I will want to include information that I had gotten from elsewhere and so should not be confused to what she said. I will try to make my own comments distinctly different.<p>The title of the presentation was "What people get wrong – and sometimes right – about evolution." I posted the notice because it bore on the issue under discussion that creationists argue against their own misunderstanding of evolution and of the rest of science, hence what they get wrong about evolution.<p>Dr. Scott started by mentioning a recent creation bill in Arkansas that failed to make it out of a State Senate committee. Of course that directly refutes WookieeB's false assertion that creationism is a thing of the past and that such things no longer happen. No, WookieeB, they [i]do[/i] still happen.<p>Dr. Scott's first example of something that people get wrong was the infamous "Well if we evolved from monkeys, [i]then why are there still monkeys?[/i]" There are so many things wrong with that one, but rather than take it completely apart, I think that she was using it as a springboard for discussion of her other subjects. Here's what I remember of her actual discussion of the claim:<br>[list=1]
[*] No, we did not evolve from monkeys. That is not even close to how evolution and speciation works. Rather, we would say that at some point in our ancestries [i]we had a common ancestor[/i] whose descendents then branched out along different lines. <p>[*] Creationists tend to use the millennia-old idea of the Great Chain of Being, AKA "The Ladder of Life", in which all current forms of life are arrayed in a straight line and ranked from most primitive to most advanced (with us humans at the top, of course). Instead, we use Darwin's own idea of a branching tree or bush with current life forms at the ends of the branches and common ancestors at the branch points.<p>[*] Of course, the common sense refutation is to point out that when the first animals ventured out onto land, that did not suddenly empty the seas of all animal life. Or when Europeans first settled in the Americas that did not suddenly empty Europe of all human life.<p>[*] In most speciations, the new species doesn't replace the parent species, but rather a sub-population of the parent species becomes isolated from the parent population after which event they then diverged from each other. She goes on to develop that idea more completely with graphics and using a new biological term for me, [url=Deme - Wikipedia(biology)]deme[/url], a local breeding population or group.<br>[/list]
I also just tried editing that old message and the edit box does the same thing.
What just happened in
this reply is odd:
The original message is very clearly displayed as "Message 110 of 111" and it gives its message ID as (885956). But when I copy and paste it directly into an
mid tag, it displays here as "Message 87".
Why would it do that?
When I submit this reply, I am going to try that
mid link and see where it takes me.
Hasta luego.
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Afterwards:
That link did indeed take me to Message 87 of that same topic. But this is what I see in the title block:
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Message 87 of 111 (0)
A message ID of
zero?
Going from there to my message 110, I still get this:
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Message 110 of 111 (885956)
That is the message ID that I had tried to link to.
Along the way at the top of that last page in that topic, I spotted my Message 106:
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Message 106 of 111 (0)
29-May-2021 3:59 PM
Some kind of message database corruption?
Edited by dwise1, : Afterword from testing that link
Edited by dwise1, : Platform info added in first paragraph
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