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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
quote: Exclusive: Ravi Zacharias Apologizes for False Claims about His Credentials at Oxford and Cambridge – Warren ThrockmortonFacts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
Agreed, but the apologists and their followers hold these scoundrels up as paragons as virtue. Their followers listen to them because they have marketed themselves as well educated, well respected, virtuous authorities. The christians will never actually examine the actual arguments. Exposing them as frauds should also expose their fraudulent arguments.
Alas, I know it won't. The sheep willingly get fleeced. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
I don't think that Ravi was consciously aware that he was deceiving people--he likely justified the titles in his own mind.
He probably did justify the titles, in hid own mind, but he was consciously misrepresenting himself and scamming people. Do you honestly believe he had nothing to do with sites and his pr staff developing this bogus list of credentials. He knew he was lying.Can you name any major atheist pundit that has misrepresented their credentials? There well may be, but I am not aware of any. Ravi is a liar, a cheat and a scoundrel. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
Why is it so easy for Christians to forgive one another and so hard for you?
This has nothing to do with forgiving. I have nothing to forgive him for. I am just stating know admitted facts. He is a liar, a cheat and a scoundrel. You yourself agree he is a liar If you feel the need to "forgive" by all means forgive. I am not even sure what that means in this context. I am just stating facts.
What bothers me more is that now you trust nobody from RZIM.
I never trusted them, but there is plenty of evidence why my reasoning is justified. Do you not feel it is odd that Abdu Murray says nothing about his past? Do you not feel it is odd that he is just a dude with no actual training telling you what your beliefs should be? Does that same normal?
Do you think that all Christian apologists are in the same boat, as jar does?
Yup. Have never been shown one that isn't a liar and a grifter. You do realize that they do it for the money don't you? The know no more and believe no more than you. They are just better sales people.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
Yeah. Wow. This is what religion has devolved to? Carny people running shell games?
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
Amazing how Ravi never really apologized or took responsibility for his lying. Yet you "forgive" him. How about listening to people that don't lie so you don't have to forgive them for lying to you.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7
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So are mythicists.
How so? Back this assertion with facts and data.What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
You are a vile human being. You are willing to countenance any evil in order to support your belief in a god.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
You are saying the horrendous death of children is part of your god's plan. To think that and approve of that is inhuman, inhumane, and vile. I am glad you take offense.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
So one day, a woman you obviously knew well has a son. The boy grows up. One day he robs a bank and shoots a guard. Are you responsible for his evil?
You don't miss points, you consciously ignore them.Classic troll. What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
I am always impressed when christofascists ignore their claims of their skydaddy's omniscience and omnipotence when it suits them.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7
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I think you are capable of using google. Here is a hint. It has a wiki entry.
Unlike you, I know what words mean.What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
Please provide source for 93% claim
. What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
That is not a source. So you have no evidence this is accurate. Troll.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9076 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.7 |
More word salad.
Wash, rinse, repeat. What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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