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ringo
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Message 96 of 116 (898602)
09-26-2022 10:13 PM
Reply to: Message 93 by Phat
09-26-2022 4:13 PM


Re: Redirecting Political Discussion
Phat writes:
Through providing equal opportunity to work hard and get paid.
Where do you think minimum wage laws came from? And safe working conditions? (keyword: laws)
And you didn't answer the question: What do you think governments should do?

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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ringo
Member (Idle past 411 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


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Message 97 of 116 (898603)
09-26-2022 10:20 PM
Reply to: Message 94 by candle2
09-26-2022 4:18 PM


Re: What sort of Ist are you?
candle2 writes:
Also Ringo, tell us what you think happened during
creation week.
The story is right there in Genesis 1. But it's just a story. It didn't happen like that.
candle2 writes:
Even if you are an atheist, you must have an opinion
of what you think Moses is stating.
Moses has nothing to do with Genesis1.
candle2 writes:
Without having your own interpretation of what
happened on each particular day, you carry little
credibility when debating others.
I don't need "my own interpretation". YOU do because you have a preconceived notion of what you want it to say. I just go by what it DOES say.
And I'll stack my credibility against yours any day of the week.

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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ringo
Member (Idle past 411 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


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Message 102 of 116 (898833)
09-30-2022 8:28 PM
Reply to: Message 100 by candle2
09-30-2022 2:05 PM


Re: What sort of Ist are you?
candle2 writes:
People won't believe this but I eventually I found the father
that I needed. It was and is the heavenly Father.
It's easy enough to see why you needed a father figure - so much that you made one up.
candle2 writes:
Those who say one cannot have a relationship with Him are
ignorant beyond words.
Of course you can have a "relationship" with an imaginary friend. It's pretty common, especially among children.
For that matter, the reason a lot of marriages fail is because the relationship is largely an idealized fantasy.
candle2 writes:
One other thing, difficult and trying times can lead to emotional
growth. It can also lead to a more compassionate individual.
Or not. A large proportion of prison inmates come from trying times.

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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ringo
Member (Idle past 411 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 106 of 116 (898849)
10-01-2022 11:50 AM
Reply to: Message 104 by candle2
10-01-2022 9:58 AM


Re: What sort of Ist are you?
candle2 writes:
Ringo, many of those who are in prison were raised
without father's.
That's what I said. A difficult upbringing doesn't always lead to emotional growth and more compassion.
candle2 writes:
And just saying that I needed a father figure so
badly that I made one up is nothing more than a
cheap come-back.
It's a fairly obvious comeback.
candle2 writes:
Some guy that believes his ancestry consists of
amoeba, hyenas, and chimps has a lot of gall in
trying to convince others about life.
I'm not trying to convince you of anything. You probably couldn't be convinced that the world is round.
And anybody who doesn't understand that we DO come from the same ancestors as amoebas, hyenas and chimps has a lot to learn before we can teach him anything about life.
But this topic isn't about evolution. Try to be wrong about one thing at a time.
candle2 writes:
You brain came about by random chance, nothing
but a mutation. It can't be trusted.
Wrong. My brain - and all brains - came from the mutations that were selected.
They were selected because they worked better than the ones that were not selected. So they HAVE already shown that they can be trusted.
candle2 writes:
Mine was created by God.
Do you realize that you're not making any sense?
You're trying to deny evolution, yet you're admitting that MY brain did evolve. Are you going to shoot yourself in the other foot too?
And by the way, I'll stack my brain up against yours any day of the week. Go ahead and try to discuss something intelligently.

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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ringo
Member (Idle past 411 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


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Message 114 of 116 (898895)
10-02-2022 3:23 PM
Reply to: Message 113 by candle2
10-02-2022 1:38 PM


Re: What sort of Ist are you?
candle2 writes:
Ringo, you say that your brain selected the mutations.
I didn't say that.
I said that our brains come from mutations that were selected. Mutations happen. Some of them make us more able to survive. Some make us less able to survive. The ones that make us more able to survive can be passed sown to our offspring.
If you're going to try to argue against evolution, you really should have an inkling of a clue about how it works.
candle2 writes:
You must mean that it is similar to going into Walmart
and selecting what items and which brands one wants.
It is, kinda. People go to Walmart and select the items they want. The items that are bought "survive" - i.e. the supplier sends more. But the ones that people don't select are not re-ordered. The supplier goes broke and the items become extinct.
candle2 writes:
Why don't you select a mutation that turns your arms
into wings.
Because WE don't do the selecting. The environment does. If there was a mutation for wings, it would quite possibly be selected OUT; it would be a "deformity" which would make the person LESS able to manipulate tools, etc. than if he had hands and LESS likely to survive.
candle2 writes:
Blind, random chance does not have the ability to select.
Of course not. The mutations are the selected, not the selectors.
candle2 writes:
The vast majority of mutations are harmful, and even
fatal to an organism.
Yes, indeed. And a lot of species have become extinct. Their environment selected then OUT.
candle2 writes:
Even when a mutation offers a degree of benefits (such
as Sickle Cell Anemia) it also carries risks.
All of life carries risks. There's the food chain, for example.
candle2 writes:
You don't get it do you? I was laughing at you when you I
that your ancestry consists of amoeba, hyenas, and chimps.
I know. And the rest of us are laughing at YOU because you don't understand that they ARE our relatives.
candle2 writes:
Your brain came about by what you call selective mutations.
I didn't call them any such things. I said that mutations are selected.
candle2 writes:
Surely, with a big Ole impressive brain like that, creating
life from a pool of chemicals should be child's play.
Biochemists' play. It requires twenty of so years of education STARTING when you're a child.
candle2 writes:
Your big Ole brain must be far superior to mine, because I
can't even come close to achieving that.
Well, you can't even read my posts with comprehension. (How many errors did I point out?) You should be asking questions not being arrogant and condescending.
candle2 writes:
In fact, I wouldn't even know where to start.
Start by learning a basic kindergarten-level of understanding about evolution.

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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