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dwise1 Member Posts: 6076 Joined: Member Rating: 7.2
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Not just abortion rights.
As I understand, this decision is based on the privacy-rights arguments made in Roe v. Wade being flawed and invalid. A looming problem is that several other of our rights are based on the same privacy-rights arguments; eg, access to birth control, same-sex marriage, inter-racial marriage. Once this domino goes down, the Republican culture wars will go after the next dominos in line. We have already seen Republican office holders going after birth control.
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3971 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 7.1
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I know, a bare link. Doing it anyway.
Legal expert identifies a 'fatal flaw' in Alito's leaked draft Moose Added by edit - The above link has gone bad. Here are some alternative links: The leaked draft has a fatal flaw. And it's even worse than you think.Legal expert finds “fatal flaw” in Samuel Alito’s leaked abortion opinion | Salon.com Edited by Minnemooseus, : Added by edit.
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Phat Member Posts: 18649 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.3 |
Recently I was challenged by bringing up Ben Shapiro, which got me thinking about Conservative values vs Liberal values.
Can religion be kept out of such discussions, given that it plays a large role in defining people's chosen morality? Lets examine a few social memes presented on the internet.Which of these have truth and which are propaganda and lies? That is the next question. I would amend this one a bit. If we removed God from the equation, Conservatives would place man above government while liberals might place government first.
It seems to be true that religious views are less tolerated publically than are humanist views.
I've no comment on the last one except to say that it seems about right."A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You |
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dwise1 Member Posts: 6076 Joined: Member Rating: 7.2 |
All I get is a "Microsoft Start" page and a news feed, not what you're linking to.
What did it say?
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Phat Member Posts: 18649 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.3 |
Try this link.
[url=http://gorhistory.com/hist111/1970sand1980s.htmlhttp://gorhistory.com/hist111/1970sand1980s.html] I guess the website is not secure, according to my computer. Anyway, try this one:
quote: "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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Phat Member Posts: 18649 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.3 |
Sorry, dwise1. I thought you were replying to me and not Moose.
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3971 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 7.1
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The link went bad. I've added alternative links to that message (Message 767)
Here they are also:The leaked draft has a fatal flaw. And it's even worse than you think. Legal expert finds “fatal flaw” in Samuel Alito’s leaked abortion opinion | Salon.com Moose
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Phat Member Posts: 18649 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.3
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Phat writes:
I apologize for any irrationality I may have. My question to all of you is this: Do you see Republicans by and large as more racist than normal?Percy writes: Are we talking ALL of them? Are ALL Democrats pro-immigration? Are ALL Democrats Secular-Humanists? Let's steer clear of the ALL game. Seriously? Is your head buried in the sand? How would you make a case that they're not. Percy writes: OK, you have some valid points. Doug Mastriano, Republican nominee for governor in Pennsylvania, donated to Gab, an antisemitic website used by the murderer of 11 Jewish congregates at a Pittsburgh synagogue, and linked to it from his own websites before deleting them this summer. He's called separation of church and state a "myth", and of course, what he actually means is that separation of Christianity and the US government is a myth. Republicans across the country are neutralizing the black vote through gerrymandering. Republicans are hostile toward Black Lives Matter. Republican Russell Walker, running for the statehouse in North Carolina, has a personal website that states "the Jews are NOT Semitic they are satanic as they all descend from Satan." Arthur Jones, running for Illinois representative, is a member of the American Nazi Party. Corey Stewart, running in Virginia, is pro-Confederacy. Paul Nehlen, running in Wisconsin, has been thrown off both Twitter and even Gab for his white supremacist comments. Georgia eliminated voter drop boxes in certain counties. Predominately black counties. Missouri decided not to deploy the 80 drop boxes it had already purchased. The Trump campaign sued to invalidate drop boxes in Pennsylvania after the 2020 election. Republicans questioned results from drop boxes in Michigan. Percy writes: While it is a fact that other ethnic groups are increasing in population percentage, some of them will be Republican-leaning. They are traditional family and anti LGBTQ and anti Abortion. [/qs] If there is a fear of "white" Christians getting displaced it is our own damn fault for being so insecure. Republicans are anti-immigrant, many believing in Replacement Theory, that immigrants are coming to replace white Christians as the dominant group in America. Percy writes: Things will never stay the same. Re-electing Trump won't help anything. Conservatism refers to being conservative about change. Conservatives believe change should be considered very carefully. They think the safest approach is usually just to keep things the way they already are. Percy writes: Independents already realize that sometimes the best approach is to conservatively maintain the status quo, but that sometimes one must be more open, liberal one might even say, in considering solutions. Keeping America as White and Christian as possible is definitely a conservative Republican position. candle2 writes: Phat, what exactly is it that you didn't like about Trump? For one, I didn't trust what he said. For another, he tweeted too darn much and kept firing good staff people like General Matthias. I was wary that he cozied up to Kim Jong Un and Putin. Art of the deal my arse! Finally, lots of simple-minded people took entirely too much interest in him. I don't know for a fact he was racist, but he was certainly sexist. Now you tell me... Apart from a mammoth tax cut for the rich, what did he even do besides run his mouth and fire people? "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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