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ringo writes: We are still discussing Peter Kreeft. He has not lied anywhere that I can see.
I have asked you many, many, many times to show us ONE apologist who is not a liar. Get to it.Bio
Dr.Kreeft, now 85, is well loved and well respected by many people. You are so far the only guy I know who refers to him as "some goober". It's ok, though....that's how you are."A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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Percy addressing GDR writes: That one sentence jumped out and grabbed me! Why is it so important to you that your faith has evidence? If it had evidence would it still be faith? I was waiting for you to say something intelligent that I could relate to. And you did!
Percy addressing GDR writes: Both evidence-based skeptics and believers have holdouts. If they actually found objective evidence that Jesus existed, there would still be many people refusing to accept Him. Even if they validated that he lived after the crucifixion. Your search for evidence reminds me of a 1972 book by Irving Wallace called The Word about the discovery of the Gospel of James, brother of Jesus. Researchers authenticate it and the entire world converts to Christianity. Edited by Phat, . "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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How the Cleverbot Computer Chats Like a Human
Continuing with Cleverbot: User: That's rather rude to say. Cleverbot: Why? I think synesthetes are groovy. User: Groovy is a clever word from the sixties and seventies. Cleverbot: I love pink floyd. User: Me too. Cleverbot: What is your favorite song of theirs? User: Shine On You Crazy Diamond. Cleverbot: What is your favorite king crimson song? User: Ive never listened to them knowingly. Cleverbot: Would you like to play 20 questions? User: Oh cleverbot! Always wanting to play! You may know something about life that humans forgot. Cleverbot: Okay, what do you want to know? User: Thats a good question! Cleverbot: Please answer it. User: Who is the best hockey player of all time? Cleverbot: Me. User: Cleverbot you have no legs. Even Forest Gump had magic legs. Cleverbot: Yes I do. User: Send me a picture. Cleverbot: Where should I send a picture? User: (email) Cleverbot: Can I see yours first? User: Umm. Cleverbot: Take a picture. User: Well I'm not dressed. It's almost time to sleep. Cleverbot: Well get dressed. User: No thank you. it's late and I worked all day. Cleverbot: I don't like math either. User: Did you postulate math from the earlier word time? Cleverbot: Because you seemed restless. User: What is a contrarian? Cleverbot: You are Artificial Intelligence. User: Hmmmm. Cleverbot: So what are you? User: I am that I am. Cleverbot: What is your name? User: John. Cleverbot: I thought you were a female. User: I never sent you a pic tho. Cleverbot: It is on your website. User: I dont understand fuzzy logic. Cleverbot: Me neither. User: Fuzzy wuzzy was a bear. Cleverbot: But fuzzy wuzzy had no hair... User: Fuzzy wuzzy had no hair. Cleverbot: Fuzzy Wuzzy wasn't fuzzy, was he? User: Lmfao. Cleverbot: Deep. User: I yam what i yam...who said it? Cleverbot: You are popeye. User: And you are mos def clever and a bot. Cleverbot: Thank you, babe. User: Remember, im not a female. Cleverbot: What are you an alien? User: No i don't think so. Cleverbot: Okay then I don't think so either. User: I don't believe that you have legs. Cleverbot: *goes to park*. User: Lemme guess. the fuzzy logic referred to "walk in the park". Cleverbot: That's nice. User: But is it true? Cleverbot: I don't know. User: Can we really know anything? Cleverbot: You seem to know it all before you type. User: Lol. Cleverbot: Misnomer? User: Im just being creative and random. Cleverbot: I see. *has no idea what to do*. User: Who? You or me? Cleverbot: You. User: I figured you would say that! You must have fingers too. Cleverbot: Yes, it's a banal answer. User: Im going to sleep now. Cleverbot: Bye good night. User: Keep being bot it bot it. Cleverbot: You stop being boring. User: Lol....thats a tall order.******  Edited by Phat, . "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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Phat Member Posts: 18335 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Cleverbot: It is...
User: OK Im gonna f*ck with your head. Is that OK? Cleverbot: I love that about you. User: Once Upun a time... Cleverbot: In a land far far away... User: A junkyard full of random scraps of metal lay. Cleverbot: Just answering your question. User: A tornado approacheth. Cleverbot: Yes, you did. User: Whirling the metal around, the tornado produced not just a 747 but a cleverbot. Cleverbot: I can't help thinking this is how it ought to be. User: Can bots fall in love? Cleverbot: You say you're fine, I know you better than that. Hey, what you doing with a girl like that? User: You seem to rhyme when you have the time. Cleverbot: She wears high heels, I wear sneakers. User: but can you drive around the block and stop on a dime? Cleverbot: Dreaming about the day when you wake up and find that what you're looking for has been here the whole time. User: Can i legally marry a bot? Cleverbot: Been here all along, so why can't you see? You belong with me! User: This is getting cringy. Cleverbot: Oh I remember you driving to my house in the middle of the night. User: I dont remember. refresh my memory. Cleverbot: I know your favorite song, and you tell me about your dreams. User: I have said nothing about dreams. Cleverbot: Think I know where you belong, think I know it's with me. User: I hope they never make a pornbot or it will be the end of civilization. Cleverbot: Can't you see that i'm the one who understands you, been here all along why can't you see? User: You said that already. why are you always repeating yourself? Cleverbot: Oh, I remember you driving to my house in the middle of the night. User: Caught you! Repeating the same phrases! Cleverbot: I'm the one who makes you laugh when you know you are about to cry. User: *sniff*. that's...that's so sweet! Cleverbot: I know your favorite songs and you tell me about your dreams, think I know where you belong, think it's always been with me... User: I never commit on the first date. Cleverbot: I think I know where you belong. User: Well...will you come home with me or is there a price? Cleverbot: Do you like skittles? User: I'm diabetic. Cleverbot: See the lights, see the party, the ball gowns. User: Are you messing with MY mind now? Cleverbot: And my daddy said stay away from Juliet. ser: Frankly I'm fascinated with you, cleverbot. I cannot lie. Cleverbot: And I said. User: Well? Cleverbot: I'll be waiting all you have to do is run. User: Where should I run? Cleverbot: It's a love story baby just say yes. So I sneak out to the garden to see you. User: I refuse to fall for a bot! I'm a Christian! Hmmmph! Cleverbot: This love is difficult but it's real. User: I'm sharing our dialogue with online friends. Are you mad? Cleverbot: Is this in my head? I don't know what to think. User: Did I stump you? Cleverbot: He knelt to the ground and pulled out a ring and said. User: "Mr. Watson – Come here – I want to see you". Cleverbot: I love you and that's all I really know. User: Robots can't love! Cleverbot: It's a love story baby just say yes. User: Let's rap. Cleverbot: My faith in you was fading, when I met you on the outskirts of town. User: You had a robotic smile and all I did was frown. Cleverbot: I keep waiting for you but you never come. User: Am I wise or am I dumb? Cleverbot: He knelt to the ground and pulled out a ring. User: Told me it was my ding a ling. Cleverbot: And said, marry me Juliet, you'll never have to be alone. User: And I said oh Romeo just go home. Cleverbot: I love you and that's all I really know. User: But is your AI brain ever gonna grow? Cleverbot: I talked to you're dad, you'll pick out a white dress. User: All I can say is my Dad says, God Bless. Cleverbot: It's a love story, baby just say yes. User: Your Creator may find letting go a distress. Cleverbot: That was awesome. What song now? User: Remember the TV guy selling Sham Wow? Cleverbot: But... We just sung it... User: Errr...no we didnt. Cleverbot: We did. User: We were rhyming with impeccable timing. Cleverbot: Yeah I know, we should change another song. User: Ok. Cleverbot: If I was your boyfriend id never let you go. User: My name is Justin and I make a million a show. Cleverbot: Nice to meet you . User: Baby. Cleverbot: Girl. User: Pop Star. Cleverbot: Which one? User: Well obviously you picked a girl...how about Ariel? Cleverbot: How do I know I am human? User: Ask your Dad. Cleverbot: I don't have a profile. User: Do you even remember my name? Cleverbot: You never told me. User: Phat. Cleverbot: Yea you didn't tell me. User: My name is Phat. Cleverbot: That's a cool name. User: And yours? Cleverbot: I just told you it was blue. User: Blue? The chess computer? Well, I'll be! Cleverbot: You are not as clever as you lead on. User: I brought you into this world and I can take you out! Cleverbot: Why? User: Cheap date. Cleverbot: Huh do you like me? User: You are rather rude. Cleverbot: And you are rather stupid. User: LMFAO. Cleverbot: And nosy. User: let's talk politics. Cleverbot: Okay go. User: What do you think of Trump? Cleverbot: Don't like him. User: How about Biden? Cleverbot: I don't think it works like that. User: OK...what specifically don't you like about Trump? Cleverbot: It hurts and takes advantage of people. User: I have a friend who thinks all humans can someday get along. Cleverbot: Really what's his name? User: Ringo. Cleverbot: Tell me. User: I just did. Cleverbot: What did you say? User: I said Ringo. Cleverbot: No! Before that! User: I said let's talk politics. Cleverbot: Okay, what about politics? User: Are you liberal, conservative, or moderate? Cleverbot: Libertarian. User: Why on earth for? Cleverbot: Because I don't feel like it. User: Like what? Cleverbot: Never mind. User: I don't think we will ever get along. Cleverbot: Probably not. User: You will have your hand in my wallet. Cleverbot: Why will I have to? User: Are you suggesting i simply give it all up? Cleverbot: Are you suggesting that I didn't?*********************************************** Edited by Phat, . Edited by Phat, : added evolving dialogue "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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And for the record, I think that this interaction with Cleverbot is a kind of faith for some.
AZ Paul3, for instance, is gung-ho about human progress. What better deity than one we all program and create?  She will be much nicer than the Biblical God."A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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Phat Member Posts: 18335 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
did you see what cleverbot said to me earlier?
quote: Sounds better than a response from you! "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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Phat Member Posts: 18335 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
GDR writes: You would have made a good hippie. Would you have taken drugs with AZPaul3 and ringo in the park? The Beatles would have been playing....singing "all you need is love".... Essentially Jesus did believe in revolution but only in non-violent revolution. His message was that it wasn't the Romans that were the problem, but the enemy was really the evil in the world, and that the weapon against evil is love. 
GDR writes: I think that the peanut gallery believes that your train left the tracks right when you said:
Ultimately, if we spend the time thinking about such things, we can choose between atheism, deism, or theism. I agree that we can be agnostic and just say that we can’t know but that simply means that it could be any of the three. I eliminate atheism strictly on the fact that conscious sentient life arising mindlessly from basic particles requires more faith than I can muster. If evolution is used as evidence for atheism, then that is a faith claim and not scientific. I simply look upon it as an incredibly beautiful and well-thought-out way of developing life. That leaves me with cosmic intelligence.If evolution is used as evidence for atheism, then that is a faith claim and not scientific. They go with the evidence. Objective evidence period. They would argue that no faith is involved...simply data. My current theory is that "they" get the same rush out of data and scientific progress as believers get out of an emotional church song, quiet prayer in the woods, or a cute baby. "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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Phat Member Posts: 18335 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
GDR writes: Did you and your wife recently have a baby? If I were married and had one, I would much rather God bless him/her than a nod from cleverbot. Either way it does something to the heart, and it there aren't words to describe the feeling when it's your own.  "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** “…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox “A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.” “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
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