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Topic: Choosing a faith
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ringo
Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 480 of 3694 (897837)
09-13-2022 1:23 PM
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Reply to: Message 479 by Phat
09-13-2022 1:16 PM
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Re: What does God want of Us
Phat writes: So concludes the wee carbon-based life form who has yet to accomplish anything on their own planet much less speculate on what the universe "needs"...
What element are YOU based on that makes YOUR conclusions so superior?
"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys
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ringo
Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 497 of 3694 (897880)
09-14-2022 3:36 PM
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Reply to: Message 492 by GDR
09-14-2022 12:36 PM
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GDR writes: A couple of quotes from this site that covers it extensively. history for atheists
I'll point out that your quotes are just denial, with nothing to back them up.
"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys
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ringo
Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 498 of 3694 (897881)
09-14-2022 3:41 PM
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Reply to: Message 495 by Phat
09-14-2022 2:44 PM
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Re: History For Atheists
Phat writes: Carriers net worth from the lecture circuit: $6 million dollars. How is he any different from an apologist?
How does making $6 million make him a liar?
"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys
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ringo
Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 500 of 3694 (897883)
09-14-2022 3:46 PM
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Reply to: Message 499 by Phat
09-14-2022 3:42 PM
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Re: History For Atheists
Phat writes: Because they are marketing mythicism.
You gave ONE example of somebody making money. That does not justify using the word "they". Stop grasping at straws. And you have many, many, many unanswered posts in appropriate threads. You have no leg to stand on until you start to discuss the topics in good faith.
"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys
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ringo
Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 507 of 3694 (897898)
09-15-2022 11:41 AM
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Reply to: Message 503 by Phat
09-14-2022 5:37 PM
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Re: History For Atheists
Phat writes: You tell me not to lump all of them in one basket, which is precisely what you do with the apologists.
We have seen many, many, many apologists proven to be liars and thieves on this forum. You, on the other hand, showed ONE mythicist who made some money. By no stretch of the imagination is that a double standard. I have asked you many, many, many times to show us ONE apologist who is not a liar. Get to it.
"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys
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ringo
Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 539 of 3694 (897941)
09-16-2022 11:49 AM
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Reply to: Message 511 by Phat
09-15-2022 3:51 PM
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Re: History For Atheists
Phat writes: We are still discussing Peter Kreeft. He has not lied anywhere that I can see.
All we've seen of him is a few lines that you quoted.
Phat writes: Dr.Kreeft, now 85, is well loved and well respected by many people.
Irrelevant. So is Trump.
Phat writes: You are so far the only guy I know who refers to him as "some goober".
I call him "some goober" because his ideas are no more important than some guy who pumps gas in Mayberry. If you want to discuss Peter Kreeft, get to it. I answered what you quoted from him. Respond to my answers.
"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys
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ringo
Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 540 of 3694 (897942)
09-16-2022 11:55 AM
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Reply to: Message 527 by Phat
09-16-2022 5:53 AM
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Re: What does God want of Us
Phat writes: Prov 16:33 writes: NIV 33 The lot is cast into the lap, but it's every decision is from the LORD.
That sounds like predestination.
"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys
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ringo
Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 542 of 3694 (897945)
09-16-2022 12:45 PM
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Reply to: Message 541 by Theodoric
09-16-2022 12:28 PM
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Re: What does God want of Us
Theodoric writes: Guarantee Phat will miss your point.
If I was a contrarian, I would disagree. 
"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys
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ringo
Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 560 of 3694 (898131)
09-19-2022 1:33 PM
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Reply to: Message 558 by Phat
09-18-2022 6:11 PM
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Re: What does God want of Us
Phat writes: If they actually found objective evidence that Jesus existed, there would still be many people refusing to accept Him.
I bet you can't find any on this forum. Idiots like candle2 and Dredge might agree with you.
"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys
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ringo
Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 613 of 3694 (898403)
09-23-2022 12:11 PM
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Reply to: Message 606 by GDR
09-22-2022 7:04 PM
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Re: What does God want of Us
GDR writes: If you get a copy of "Jesus and the Eyewitness" he writes `14 pages on the subject.
I once told somebody here, "I could do a thousand posts standing on my head." But quantity doesn't guarantee quality.
"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys
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ringo
Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 615 of 3694 (898405)
09-23-2022 12:23 PM
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Reply to: Message 611 by Phat
09-23-2022 9:53 AM
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Re: EvC. Evidence vs Creationism
Phat writes: That's the real E in EvC. EVIDENCE vs Creationism. It's the whole argument.
That may be the smartest thing you've ever said here.
Phat writes: I may have lost the argument but I see my God winning the war.
I see a war long ago in a galaxy far, far away - but I can distinguish that from the computer I see in front of me.
Phat writes: In general, believers not only need no objective evidence, but they also don't WANT to question....
Two smart things in one day.  It is all about what you WANT, not what IS.
Phat writes: What he and you and others here really mean is that I won't embrace critical thought as a tool to validate or refute my beliefs.
Hat trick! The question is, "Why not?" Why wouldn't you use a saw to saw a board or a drill to drill a hole or a hammer to hammer a nail?
"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys
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ringo
Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 656 of 3694 (898513)
09-25-2022 3:10 PM
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Reply to: Message 655 by Phat
09-25-2022 2:39 PM
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Re: Cleverbot is rude
Cleverbot: You're a waste of oxygen.
"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys
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ringo
Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 663 of 3694 (898558)
09-26-2022 11:57 AM
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Reply to: Message 659 by Phat
09-26-2022 4:22 AM
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Re: Developing A Relationship With Cleverbot
Phat writes: Continuing with Cleverbot
That's no better than ELIZA was fifty years ago. Maybe worse. At least ELIZA would notice a question mark and say, "Why do you ask?" and if you used an exclamation mark it would say, "You don't have to yell." And if you ever mentioned your mother or father.... You could make a better "AI" just using a large database of random phrases.
"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys
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ringo
Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 667 of 3694 (898567)
09-26-2022 12:55 PM
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Reply to: Message 664 by Phat
09-26-2022 12:31 PM
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Re: Developing A Relationship With Cleverbot
The online version of Cleverbot searches its database just three times before producing a response, while the more powerful version used in Turing competitions runs 42 database searches. "It's quite a few times superior to the online Cleverbot,"
It would be interesting to see the "good" version.
"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys
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ringo
Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 668 of 3694 (898568)
09-26-2022 12:56 PM
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Reply to: Message 666 by Phat
09-26-2022 12:39 PM
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Re: Developing A Relationship With Cleverbot
Phat writes: What better deity than one we all program and create?
And pretend to believe in.
"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys
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