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Author Topic:   I Know That God Does Not Exist
EWolf
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From: Lehigh Acres, Fl
Joined: 11-10-2021


Message 2785 of 3207 (894685)
05-26-2022 4:46 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Stile
10-10-2012 2:27 PM


Hello Stile,
What do we do about the fact that we were told that God exist? If we find a sand castle on a beach we know its builder exists. Where did our worth, dignity, and our right originate?
ELD

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EWolf
Member (Idle past 251 days)
Posts: 18
From: Lehigh Acres, Fl
Joined: 11-10-2021


Message 3176 of 3207 (897963)
09-16-2022 8:19 PM
Reply to: Message 2786 by Tangle
05-26-2022 5:26 PM


Hello Tangle,
Please forgive me for taking so long to answer.
EWolf writes:
​What do we do about the fact that we were told that God exist?
Tangle writes:
I heard that some bloke said something weird to a few other blokes about 2,000 years ago. Sadly the first bloke got himself killed by upsetting the local bosses.

That would have been the end of that except that 300 years later a pagan Roman emperor decided it would be good politics to create a new religion to join his territories together.

The rest is, well, you know the rest.
But don't we know all the rest of the story of the former character you spoke of? I take it that He was the one that died on the cross. Shouldn’t we see Him as unique that voluntarily gave His life instead of merely having been killed?
Why did He give His life but for the purpose of bringing you and me vital and otherwise impossible hope and that He conquered death for us? What do we think of anyone that gave His life for us? What do we think that such an individual thinks of you and me?
Yes, many supposedly similar religions rose up.
EWolf writes:
Where did our worth, dignity, and our right originate?
Tangle writes:
A lot of people reckon Allah did it. But it might have been Ik Onkar?
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine.
What did the US DOI tell us? Did it not say from God the Creator? That makes our worth very, very great! Isn’t that the basis of why the US separated from England to create a nation whose laws are based on the Bible? Its unfortunate our nation (the US) gradually strayed away from much of it.
Tangle writes:
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
(The above is a quote.)
Science is knowledge. Faith is trust that’s based on knowledge. A merchant cannot stand without his customers’ trust. Our trust in a good merchant is based on his good performance.
As written, “Know ye that the Lord He is God (Psalms 100:3).” Our faith (trust) in God is based on that knowledge. God then proves Himself beyond any doubt to us individually based on that trust.
ELD

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EWolf
Member (Idle past 251 days)
Posts: 18
From: Lehigh Acres, Fl
Joined: 11-10-2021


Message 3177 of 3207 (897967)
09-16-2022 8:34 PM
Reply to: Message 2788 by AZPaul3
05-26-2022 6:38 PM


Hello AZPaul3,
EWolf writes:
​Where did our worth, dignity, and our right originate?
AZPaul3 writes:
Your reactions to society and society's reactions to you.
Really? Are our rights and worth dependent on what people think and are thus variable? Some think that we worth much and treat us accordingly. But others think that we are worth nothing and would point a loaded gun our way.
What standard that you think your and my worth are based on? Have we not been told? What does the DOI that’s based on the Bible tell us? Are they not from the Creator that's greater than us all?
ELD

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