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Dredge
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Message 796 of 801 (897292)
09-01-2022 10:49 PM
Reply to: Message 753 by ringo
08-25-2022 11:46 AM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
Dredge writes:
A scientist with any common sense would first experiment with insulin from mammals. ... no need for the theory UCD.
ringo writes:
That IS the theory of UCD.
Nonsense. Humans are mammals, so anyone with half a brain would figure that insulin from other mammals would likely work better than insulin from non-mammals like mollusks or fish ... nothing to do with UCD.
Do try and awaken from your stupor.

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Theodoric
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Message 797 of 801 (897294)
09-01-2022 11:14 PM
Reply to: Message 796 by Dredge
09-01-2022 10:49 PM


A perfect example of a Poe
WOW!!!
Either extremely stupid, delusional or just playing the fool. A perfect example of Poe's law.
Poe's law - Wikipedia

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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ringo
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Message 798 of 801 (897303)
09-02-2022 11:58 AM
Reply to: Message 796 by Dredge
09-01-2022 10:49 PM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
Dredge writes:
Nonsense.
Who are you to judge what is nonsense. You're a self-admitted idiot.
Dredge writes:
Humans are mammals, so anyone with half a brain...
But you have less than half a brain.
Dredge writes:
... would figure that insulin from other mammals would likely work better than insulin from non-mammals like mollusks or fish
And yet they DON'T. That's what you keep missing. Creationists DON'T use that supposed knowledge for any useful purpose.
Your claim is the equivalent of saying that wings have nothing to do with their ability to fly. My point is that elephants DON'T have wings and they can't fly so it seems reasonable to conclude that flying is related to wings.
Dredge writes:
Do try and awaken from your stupor.
Do try to remember who's the idiot here, you idiot.

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What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
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Tanypteryx
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Message 799 of 801 (897322)
09-02-2022 6:18 PM
Reply to: Message 786 by Dredge
08-31-2022 12:26 AM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
Sludge writes:
I can sort of understand why a scientist, having lost an argument to the village-idiot, would resort to pulling out the "troll" card in a desperate attempt to save face.
Well, I guess I missed the part where you provided any evidence to support your argument. And I was just pointing out your trollish behavior once again, since I realized how much you like Pete and repeat.
Sludge writes:
As for the "relatedness of life" ... yes, but only in the sense that
there are genetic similarities between species.
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But if by "relatedness of life", you mean the theory of UCD ... no, that theory is irrelevant and useless to medicine.
Those genetic similarities are all due to sharing a common ancestor and since you are neither a scientist or a doctor you have no say in what is relevant or useful in medicine.
Sludge writes:
Tanypteryx writes:
Interestingly, something we never see is creationism, ID, or prayer being useful tools in the medical science toolkit. Faith healers are not replacing neurosurgeons.
Interestingly, you're strawmaning again.
Sorry, but straw-manning would be saying something untrue, while what I did was make a snide observation.
Sludge writes:
For some strange reason, you seem incapable of separating useful facts from a useless theory that attempts to explain why those facts exist.
For some strange reason you keep making the same unsupported claims.
Sludge writes:
It's as if, once upon a time, someone told you that "nothing in biology makes sense except in the light of UCD" and you believed it, never stopping to consider the veracity of that Darwinist doctrine.
I guess you need to cling to your fantasies, but no one has ever said that to me and we have moved so far beyond Darwin that it's just a warm glow in the rear view mirror.
Sludge writes:
Isn't it fascinating that even highly intelligent folks, such as scientists, are not immune from brainwashing and episodes of cognitive dissonance?
Yep, that's pretty fascinating alright. I wonder who the brainwasher is? Do they wash the brains when they're kids or wait until they put on their lab coats? Maybe brainwashing 101 at the local community college.

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AZPaul3
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Message 800 of 801 (897407)
09-04-2022 6:24 PM
Reply to: Message 796 by Dredge
09-01-2022 10:49 PM


Serious
Hey Altar Boy, I have a serious question if you care to answer. No prizes or recriminations either way (maybe), I promise.
Over in thread Does reversing abortion laws give all non-white Americans a better socio-economic dem the main OP is expressing a ... view point.
You'll see my usual insultive self there, just ignore that stuff.
A curiosity, as much and as little you may care to share, what are your views on that thread?

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Message 801 of 801 (897486)
09-06-2022 1:51 PM
Reply to: Message 796 by Dredge
09-01-2022 10:49 PM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
Dredge writes:
Nonsense. Humans are mammals, so anyone with half a brain would figure that insulin from other mammals would likely work better than insulin from non-mammals like mollusks or fish ... nothing to do with UCD.
The only reason we would expect life to fall into a nested hierarchy is if common ancestry is true. The evidence for common ancestry is that there is a real group called mammals, and that humans belong to that group. No such grouping is expected from special creation.

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