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Message 16 of 30 (891855)
02-14-2022 1:49 PM


more Xong stats
measured Games 176, and the stats of them below

wins by hex/leg parity:

holo hole helo hele
r 22 22 22 22 88
b 22 22 22 22 88

sumrwins = 88, match first snake = 46
sumbwins = 88, match first snake = 46
sumrpoints = 5095 avrg = 28.9489
sumbpoints = 5095 avrg = 28.9489
sumhexagons = 10898 avrg = 61.9205
sumhexalegs = 41075 avrg = 233.381
sumturns = 4937 avrg = 28.0511
sumturnofFirstSnake = 2760 avrg = 15.6818
total legs per turn = 8.31983
total red lasts = 89
blue turns = 2424
red turns = 2513
points per turn, red = 2.02746
points per turn, blue = 2.10190

total all Games 640

wins by hex/leg parity:
holo hole helo hele
r 80 80 80 80 320
b 80 80 80 80 320

The astonishing thing was that the last game, #640 lifetime, completed a row of exactly 80 wins in each of the 8 categories - Red vs. Blue, Odd Hexes vs. Even Hexes, and Odd Legs vs. Even Legs. Also astonishing: the accumulative Red points over 176 games exactly matched the accumulative Blue points - 5,095 each!

here's a picture of the last game, midgame:

Blue has given Red the First Sea Snake at the lower left in Turn 17, and then Red gave Blue an answering Snake at the bottom center in Turn 18. Red's Snake actually cashed a Red point, along with 3 Blue points and deleting 2 of Red's claims. 2 + 3 - 1 = net 4 points, same net as Blue's Snake to Red.

The picture at the end:


"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."

- xongsmith, 5.7d


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Message 17 of 30 (892522)
03-08-2022 8:49 PM
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02-14-2022 1:49 PM


Re: more Xong stats
An update on the Xong stats:

total Games measured: 216

sum red wins = 108, matches first sea snake = 51
sum blue wins = 108, matches first sea snake = 57

sum red points = 6363 avrg = 29.4583
sum blue points = 6361 avrg = 29.4491

sum hex = 13406 avrg = 62.0648

sum leg = 50689 avrg = 234.671

sum turns = 6067 avrg = 28.088

sum turn of first sea snake = 3386 avrg = 15.6759

total legs per turn = 8.35487

total red lasts = 111
blue turns = 2978
red turns = 3089

points per turn, red = 2.05989
points per turn, blue = 2.1360

Edited by xongsmith, : spaces for clarity


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- xongsmith, 5.7d


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Message 18 of 30 (893189)
03-31-2022 4:08 PM
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03-08-2022 8:49 PM


Re: more Xong stats
oh no! so while i'm in facebook jail for the 7th time, here's an update on the Xong games after 23 days and some 40 more games (another amazing power of two result):

measured last games:    256
wins by hex/leg parity:
holo hole helo hele
r 32 32 32 32 128
b 32 32 32 32 128

after all games: 720
r 90 90 90 90 360
b 90 90 90 90 360

stats for the 256 Measured Games:

Wins by 1 3 5 7+ points
----------------------------------------------
red wins: 84 + 30 + 11 + 3 = 128
blue wins: 80 + 38 + 7 + 3 = 128

sumredpoints = 7631 avrg = 29.8086
sumbluepoints = 7631 avrg = 29.8086

sumturn = 7205 avrg = 28.1445

sumhexbeginning = 15988 avrg = 62.4531 per game
total hex points scoring = 7631+7631-256 xongpoints = 15006
scored hexes, 15006/2 = 7503
total 15988 - 7503 = 8485 killed hexes or 33.1445 per game
total efficiency = 7503/15988 = .46929
total inefficiency = 8485/15988 = .53071

sumlegs at beginning = 60399 avrg = 235.934 per game

total legs per turn = 8.38293

sum turn of first seasnake = 4024 avrg = 15.7188

total red lasts = 129
blue turns = 3538
red turns = 3667

points per turn, red = 2.08099
points per turn, blue = 2.15687


"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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Message 19 of 30 (894368)
05-13-2022 7:49 PM
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03-31-2022 4:08 PM


Re: more Xong stats
it's been over a month...
measured last games:    336

wins by hex/leg parity:
   holo hole helo hele
r   42   42   42   42   168
b   42   42   42   42   168

after all games:          800
r  100  100  100  100   400
b  100  100  100  100   400

stats for the 336 Measured Games:

Wins by       1       3       5       7+  pts  = total
--------------------------------------------------------
redwins:   109  +  42  +  14  +   3         = 168
bluewins:  100  +  56  +   9  +   3         = 168

margin of win
redoverpts:  109 + 126 +  70 +  21 = 326  or 1.94048 per win
blueoverpts: 100 + 168 +  45 +  21 = 334  or 1.98810 per win

sumredpts  = 10094   avrg = 30.0417
sumbluepts = 10102   avrg = 30.0655

sumhexbeginning = 21160   avrg = 62.9762 per game
sumleg = 79976   avrg = 238.024 per game
legs per hex = 3.77958412
total legs per turn = 8.41853

sumturn = 9500   avrg = 28.2738 per game
total red lasts = 168  (times had an even score)
blue turns = (9500 - 168)/2 = 4666
red turns =  (9500 - 4666)  =  4834

points per turn, red  = 2.08813
points per turn, blue = 2.16502

hexes used = (10094 + 10102 -  336)/2 =  9930
efficiency = (9930/21160) = 0.469282
hexes killed = 21160 - 9930 = 11230
killed per game = 33.4226

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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Message 20 of 30 (895403)
06-25-2022 11:13 PM
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05-13-2022 7:49 PM


Re: more Xong stats
Another month+ and the picture remains dead even:
Games 384
_ _ _ by 1 __ 3 __ 5 __ 7 or more
rwins: 124 + 47 + 18 + 3 = 192
bwins: 116 + 61 + 12 + 3 = 192
redoverpts: 124 + 141 + 90 + 21 = 376 1.95833 per win
blueoverpts: 116 + 183 + 60 + 21 = 380 1.97917 per win
sumrp = 11648 avrg = 30.3333 _ 11686 new game that red won 38-37
sumbp = 11652 avrg = 30.3438 _ 11689 new game #385
sumhex = 24244 avrg = 63.1354 _ 24308 new game 64 more hexes
sumleg = 91816 avrg = 239.104 _ 92069 new game 253 more legs
sumturn = 10870 avrg = 28.3073 _ 10897 new game took 27 turns
total legs per turn = 8.44673
legs per hex = 3.78716383 3.78760079 update
sumsnake = 6074 avrg = 15.8177 i used to keep wins/firstsnake data
total red lasts = 192
blue turns = 5339
red turns = 5531
points per turn, red = 2.10595
points per turn, blue = 2.18243
hexes used = (11648 + 11652 - 384)/2 = 11458
efficiency = (11458/24244) = 0.472612
killed = 24244 - 11458 = 12786
killed per game = 33.2969
wins be hex parity and leg parity
_ holo hole helo hele __ total
r _ 48 _ 48 _ 48 _ 48 __ 192
b _ 48 _ 48 _ 48 _ 48 __ 192
update
_ holo hole helo hele __ total
r _ 48 _ 48 _ 49 _ 48 __ 193
b _ 48 _ 48 _ 48 _ 48 __ 192

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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Message 21 of 30 (895404)
06-25-2022 11:28 PM
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06-25-2022 11:13 PM


Xong on Zoom
If any of you use Zoom, I think I can get a game using a shared window with a co-host who is allowed to make changes on the shared window, but I don't know if this can be done.
This is not the whiteboard option, that is something else.

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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Message 22 of 30 (896039)
07-29-2022 5:51 PM
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06-25-2022 11:13 PM


Re: more Xong stats

Edited by xongsmith, : tried to shrink image with the thumb identifier, but it didn't work.


"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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Message 23 of 30 (896314)
08-05-2022 1:11 PM
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Re: more Xong stats
boy do some images disappear fast here!

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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Message 24 of 30 (896318)
08-05-2022 6:24 PM
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08-05-2022 1:11 PM


Re: more Xong stats
I'm getting the message "URL signature expired", which means the website hosting your image puts a time limit on how long it will exist.
--Percy

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Message 25 of 30 (896324)
08-05-2022 11:41 PM
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08-05-2022 6:24 PM


Re: pictures vanishing
i think it's facebook...
weird, i have some pictures that have been there for 10 years or so, but others go away quick.

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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Message 26 of 30 (896325)
08-05-2022 11:51 PM
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Re: pictures vanishing
If the picture is linked from Facebook, I'm thinking that you can only see it if you are logged into Facebook. But maybe there is also a time limit.
I know, in the past I linked to a picture at another forum. I could see the picture at EvC, but only if I was also logged into the other forum.
Moose

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Message 27 of 30 (897282)
09-01-2022 6:55 PM
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Re: more Xong stats - Game 500 in the books!
Games 500
rwins: 170 + 57 + 20 + 3 = 250
bwins: 162 + 73 + 12 + 3 = 250
rovrpts: 170 + 171 + 100 + 21 = 462 1.848
bovrpts: 162 + 219 + 60 + 21 = 462 1.848
sumrp = 15402 avrg = 30.804
sumbp = 15402 avrg = 30.804
sumhex = 31708 avrg = 63.416
sumleg = 120782 avrg = 241.564
sumturn = 14172 avrg = 28.344
sumsnake = 7880 avrg = 15.76
total legs per turn = 8.52258
legs per hex = 3.80919642 , surplus = 291.6
total red lasts = 248
blue turns = 6962
red turns = 7210
points per turn, red = 2.1362
points per turn, blue = 2.2123
hexes used = (15402 + 15402 - 500)/2 = 15152
efficiency = (15152/31708) = 0.47786
killed = 31708 - 15152 = 16556
killed per game = 33.112
holo hole helo hele
r 62 63 63 62 250
b 63 62 62 63 250
Game 500 with turn numbers for a while before FB deletes it:

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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Message 28 of 30 (897283)
09-01-2022 7:01 PM
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Re: more Xong stats - Game 500 in the books!
Move 22, the Give from Red to Blue at turn 22 was the winner, making 5 places left that could not be altered by a Blue give back to Red and they went: 23. the Kiwi; 24. the Hat; 25. the Cowboy; 26. the Mae West; and finally 27. the Horse.

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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Message 29 of 30 (898605)
09-27-2022 3:27 AM
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09-01-2022 7:01 PM


Re: more Xong stats - Game 536 in the books!
also Game #1000 all time without detailed stats!
...
Game 529 0922b 65 252 35 36 388 403 389 374 3.87692
Game 530 0922c 63 243 27 26 389 403 389 375 3.85714
Game 531 0923a 68 253 33 32 390 403 389 376 3.72059
Game 532 0923b 66 254 32 31 391 404 389 376 3.84848
Game 533 0924a 66 254 39 40 391 404 390 377 3.84848
Game 534 0925a 65 251 28 31 391 405 391 377 3.86154
Game 535 0925b 67 260 33 30 392 405 391 378 3.88060
Game 536 0926a 62 243 22 23 392 406 392 378 3.91935
Games 536
rwins: 183 + 61 + 21 + 3 = 268
bwins: 175 + 77 + 13 + 3 = 268
rovrpts: 183 + 183 + 105 + 21 = 492 1.83582 per win
bovrpts: 175 + 231 + 65 + 21 = 492 1.83582 per win
sumrp = 16549 avrg = 30.875
sumbp = 16549 avrg = 30.875
sumhex = 34046 avrg = 63.5187
sumleg = 129820 avrg = 242.201
sumturn = 15199 avrg = 28.3563
sumsnake = 8447 avrg = 15.7593
total legs per turn = 8.54135
legs per hex = 3.81307643 , surplus = 445.2
total red lasts = 265
blue turns = 7467
red turns = 7732
points per turn, red = 2.14033
points per turn, blue = 2.21628
hexes used = (16549 + 16549 - 536)/2 = 16281
efficiency = (16281/34046) = 0.478206
killed = 34046 - 16281 = 17765
killed per game = 33.1437
. . holo hole helo hele . . total
r . . 67 .. 67 .. 67 .. 67 . . 268
b .. 67 .. 67 .. 67 .. 67 . . 268
and the all-time totals are now:
after all games: 1000
.  holo hole helo hele
r  125  125  125  125   500
b  125  125  125  125   500
lodging umpteenth complaint about browser fonts to those devils of software who release firefox and google chrome....

"I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside."
Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned!
Enjoy every sandwich!

- xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale


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Message 30 of 30 (898607)
09-27-2022 9:22 AM
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Re: more Xong stats - Game 536 in the books!
You really like stats don't you? that game is your baby! Cute baby.

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