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Author Topic:   I Know That God Does Not Exist
ringo
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Message 3075 of 3207 (896711)
08-17-2022 11:45 AM
Reply to: Message 3056 by Phat
08-16-2022 6:30 PM


Re: Soul Man
Phat writes:
ringo writes:
Animals have all of that.
No, no they don't.
The differences between humans and other species are a matter of degree. We may have "more brain power" than other species but that doen't mean we have unique brain functions.

"Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt."
-- motto of the Special Olympians

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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 3076 of 3207 (896712)
08-17-2022 11:48 AM
Reply to: Message 3062 by Phat
08-16-2022 7:45 PM


Re: Here & Now
Phat writes:
The present is a gift
I wish nobody had ever said that. It's a stupid mangling of word meanings.

"Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt."
-- motto of the Special Olympians

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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


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Message 3077 of 3207 (896713)
08-17-2022 11:50 AM
Reply to: Message 3063 by Dredge
08-16-2022 7:45 PM


Re: Troll Alert
Dredge writes:
Even a five year-old child could prove that I'm taller than an ant ... but apparently, science can't.
Since you're almost as smart as a five-year-old, show us your "proof".

"Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt."
-- motto of the Special Olympians

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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 3078 of 3207 (896715)
08-17-2022 12:04 PM
Reply to: Message 3068 by Phat
08-17-2022 12:05 AM


Re: Soul Man
Phat writes:
I don't have time to learn the subject...
If you haven't learned the subject, how can you comment on it? Specifically, how can you tell other people they are wrong about it?
Phat writes:
... any more than any of you take the time to learn what believers believe...
But we already know what believers believe. Many of us used to believe it ourselves. Many of us know more about your beliefs than you do.
Phat writes:
In order for you to understand belief, you would literally have to suspend your intuitive demands for evidence and simply declare that you trust God (should He exist).
Many of us have done exactly that. We came from where you are and realized that the belief was worthless.

"Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt."
-- motto of the Special Olympians

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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 3081 of 3207 (896719)
08-17-2022 12:20 PM
Reply to: Message 3054 by Stile
08-16-2022 5:03 PM


Re: Parameters By Definition
Stile writes:
We were all given Bibles to read/study (ours to keep forever.)
-the Bibles we were given were these small, red versions. I don't remember what version specifically... but I'm pretty sure they were New Testament only, not the entire Bible.
The Gideons (who put Bibles in hotel rooms) used to give a New Testament to every Public School student in Grade Five. I don't suppose they're allowed to do that any more.

"Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt."
-- motto of the Special Olympians

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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 3082 of 3207 (896720)
08-17-2022 12:23 PM
Reply to: Message 3055 by Phat
08-16-2022 6:24 PM


Re: Omnichron?
Phat writes:
Humans have enough of an ego that they attempt to define what God *should* do and be in order to qualify for the position. As if we had any say!
Of course we have a say. Ever hear of free will? I pick my own friends.

"Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt."
-- motto of the Special Olympians

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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 3089 of 3207 (896734)
08-17-2022 3:14 PM
Reply to: Message 3086 by Phat
08-17-2022 2:05 PM


Re: Soul Man
Phat writes:
And that was a mistake.
Correcting the mistake was a mistake? You're going to have to do a hell of a lot more than just asserting that.
Phat writes:
It was devolution rather than evolution.
You should know better than that by now. There's no such thing as "devolution".
Phat writes:
One prime example is the devolution of money.
Are you confusing devaluation with devolution?
Phat writes:
ringo writes:
Many of us know more about your beliefs than you do.
I challenge that.
No you don't. You don't even accept the challenge when I challenge you.
Phat writes:
How can you know my own unique thought process, prayer life, and decisions I make?
From your posts.
Phat writes:
All you have to go on is my historical statements, my current behavior, and what my "in-group" believes.
My historical statements, my current behaviour and what my in-group believes beat yours.
Phat writes:
And you don't even know them!!
Sure I do. Try me.

"Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt."
-- motto of the Special Olympians

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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


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Message 3090 of 3207 (896735)
08-17-2022 3:19 PM
Reply to: Message 3085 by Phat
08-17-2022 1:57 PM


Re: Here & Now
Phat writes:
All it really suggests is "Live For Today. Today is sacred."
It suggests that you don't know the two meanings of the word "present".
Phat writes:
Too many people live in the past
and/or dream of a future with no regard for reality.
Like the people who believe in gold? It's the standard of the past and an empty hope for the future.

"Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt."
-- motto of the Special Olympians

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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 3091 of 3207 (896736)
08-17-2022 3:26 PM
Reply to: Message 3083 by Phat
08-17-2022 1:51 PM


Re: Omnichron?
Phat writes:
we have a say in what *we* do but no say (apart from uninformed opinions) about what God should do.
As I said... we DO have a say in whom our friends are. No friend of mine *should* roast people in Hell.
Phat writes:
the Book explains how we *should* relate to God and Jesus...
The Book also explains what we *must* do to be saved - but you don't mind throwing that part away.
Phat writes:
After all, what standard is higher?
The reality standard is highest. We are real. God is questionable at best.

"Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt."
-- motto of the Special Olympians

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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


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Message 3092 of 3207 (896737)
08-17-2022 3:29 PM
Reply to: Message 3084 by Phat
08-17-2022 1:53 PM


Re: Parameters By Definition
Phat]As if humanity has not caused all wars and economic crashes!
Everything good that has happened to humanity was also caused by humanity. Humanity has cured diseases that God created.
Stop hating humanity so much.

"Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt."
-- motto of the Special Olympians

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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 3105 of 3207 (896810)
08-23-2022 11:36 AM
Reply to: Message 3102 by Dredge
08-22-2022 10:57 PM


Re: Omnichron?
Dredge writes:
Do you in fact have any friends?
Yes.

"Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt."
-- motto of the Special Olympians

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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


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Message 3106 of 3207 (896811)
08-23-2022 11:41 AM
Reply to: Message 3101 by Dredge
08-22-2022 10:22 PM


Re: Troll Alert
Dredge writes:
Do you know how a tape-measure works?
My statement was, "Since you're almost as smart as a five-year-old, show us your "proof". Message 3077
You claimed in Message 3063 that "Even a five year-old child could prove that I'm taller than an ant ... but apparently, science can't." The onus is on you to back up your claim, whether I know anything about tape measures or not.
Go ahead, show us your "proof".

"Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt."
-- motto of the Special Olympians

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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 3107 of 3207 (896813)
08-23-2022 11:43 AM
Reply to: Message 3099 by Dredge
08-22-2022 10:16 PM


Dredge writes:
Why can't science prove that I'm taller than an ant?
Because science doesn't deal in proof any more than brain surgery deals in aviation.

"Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt."
-- motto of the Special Olympians

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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


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Message 3120 of 3207 (896857)
08-24-2022 12:15 PM
Reply to: Message 3119 by Phat
08-24-2022 6:18 AM


Re: Monsters Under The Bed
Phat writes:
Honestly I can't figure out what monster you are talking about...
You're being dishonest. You know damn well what monster he's talking about - the one who threatens to roast us in Hell, the one who created Hell in the first place, the one who lets children die horrible deaths.
Phat writes:
... war, in general, is hell by definition.
No it isn't. War has been figuratively compared to Hell. You should probably stop using the phrase "by definition" entirely.

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 3123 of 3207 (896865)
08-24-2022 3:10 PM
Reply to: Message 3121 by Phat
08-24-2022 2:20 PM


Re: Monsters Under The Bed
Phat writes:
It is you who is being dishonest
How so? Be specific.
Phat writes:
You know darn well that none of your friends are being fried.
I don't know any such thing. I have heard hundreds of preachers say that the "unsaved" will suffer eternal torment. You're the one who is trying to whitewash the evil God that you have created.
Phat writes:
And you Also know that none of the dead baby arguments
hold any water.
Sure they do. Your "Nuh uh" is what doesn't hold any water.
Don't just deny, deny, deny. Make an argument.

"Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg.
What's going on? Where are all the friends I had?
It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong.
Give me back, give me back my Leningrad."
-- Leningrad Cowboys

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