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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4411 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.4
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Sludge writes: That was a miscarriage of justice. Well, it stopped a group of religious fanatics from trying to indoctrinate other people's children.
Sludge writes: It will be overturned one day Nothing would surprise me as the U.S. is corrupted and turned into a shithole country, but as far as i know there are no appeals of the decision working their way through the court system at this time.
Sludge writes: The truth cannot be suppressed forever. This is probably correct. What truth are you talking about, and if it's be suppressed how do you know about it?Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4411 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
Sludge writes: A sad day for truth What truth?Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4411 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
There's no truth without supporting evidence.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4411 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.4
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It's the genetic similarities due to universal common ancestry between humans and other animals that have proven useful in medicine.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4411 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
Sludge writes: The "due to universal common ancestry" is irrelevant. Medicine doesn't need to know what produced the genetic similarities to make use of them. Well, medicine DOES know about universal common ancestry and the more you know the more likely you will be able to find models for human health issues. You can pray for miracles all you want but I will go with medical science every time. Knowledge keeps increasing, but ignorance and stupidity lead nowhere good.Edited by Tanypteryx, . Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4411 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.4
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dwise1 writes: ... , but ignorance and stupidity lead nowhere.
That is not true. And history is filled with examples of where ignorance and stupidity do lead. The short list includes famine and death. Yeah, I should have said "but ignorance and stupidity lead nowhere good. Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4411 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
Sludge writes: Tanypteryx writes:
Why? medicine DOES know about universal common ancestry and the more you know the more likely you will be able to find models for human health issues. That's how it works, knowledge increases, built upon past discoveries. Why don't you know this?Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4411 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.4
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It hardly seems worth the effort, his proposed topic The New Intelligent Design and Its Discoveries and Its Curiosities is the same pathetic gibberish and flawed reasoning as his prior threads. It's almost as if he doesn't remember that everything he said on earlier visits was completely refuted.
Mr ID writes: Hi, I just wanted to share to you the new Intelligent Design. I am the father and founder of it. We remember your delusions of grandeur.
Mr ID writes: Either the invented definitions are not part of reality and must be changed, or we need to reinvent another realities, fantasies, perhaps, like Evolution. Thus, somebody must discovered the real and actual definitions and descriptions of those words - testable, usable, numerical, universal and scientific - to be used both in science and in reality, so that we could explain reality better. That is real naturalistic science. Maybe Mr. ID and Dredge could get together and redefine scientific jargon...Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4411 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
Science by YouTube video. Still cannot show examples or efficacy. Sabine Hossenfelder he's not. More like Dr. Alphonse Mephisto.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4411 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.4
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MrID writes: Message 1 Now we are discussing in science. I think that you are talking science too. If you are going to ask a scientist (even here) this simple question: "is biological cell intelligently designed or not?" (ID) That's easy, biological cells are not designed.
MrID writes: They could never answer that. We have dictionaries. We have invented definitions and descriptions of "intelligence". Why they could never answer that simple real question? Sometimes, I gave them another options. I used another words for "intelligence". Here they are: "is biological cell intentionally designed or not?" (ID) Biological cells are not designed.
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Or "is biological cell importantly designed or not?" (ID) Biological cells are not designed. MrID writes: Or "is biological cell smartly designed or not?" Biological cells are not designed.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4411 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.4
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Sludge writes: Scientists would have thought of experimenting with insulin from non-human animals with or without the theory of universal common descent. Funny how none of them tried it before the theory of common descent.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4411 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
Sludge writes: Please provide an example of how the theory of universal common descent has proven useful in medicine. Easy, all the mammals that are used to model human medical conditions, rather than fish or mollusks, because they are quite obviously more closely related to humans. No one tried using insulin or thyroids from other mammals to treat human diseases before they knew we are related.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4411 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
You asked for an example and I gave you several.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4411 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
You are delusional, so I can understand your confusion.
ABE: fixed the spelling of delusional, that will teach me to type without my contacts in.Edited by Tanypteryx, . Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4411 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
Sludge writes: Your arguments are so weak that the village idiot shot them all down in flames. You mistakenly think that your endlessly repeated inane questions are some sort of super-powerful rebuttal, meanwhile we have museums and libraries full of supporting evidence and you have a fictional book written by a bunch of bronze age Jewish goat herders.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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