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Author Topic:   I Know That God Does Not Exist
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Message 3023 of 3207 (896598)
08-14-2022 4:46 PM
Reply to: Message 3022 by Phat
08-14-2022 4:02 PM


Re: Parameters By Definition
Unfortunately there is no shortage of "cultural" Catholics who attend Mass every Sunday but are simply going through the motions. They may have a degree of faith, but they have yet to experiece a true and deep conversion ... at least, that the impression I get. I doubt if they ever pray in private and probably won't take God seriously until they're on their death-beds.
I've met practising Catholics who are agnostic ... I even knew one who went to Mass every Sunday but was an atheist.

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Message 3024 of 3207 (896600)
08-14-2022 5:05 PM
Reply to: Message 2905 by Parasomnium
08-07-2022 7:11 PM


Parasomnium writes:
God is descibed as omnipotent, omniscient and omnibenevolent. It can be argued that these three attributes are mutually incompatible ...
that's one way we can know that God does not exist, if God is indeed supposed to have these three attributes simultaneously. 
If that argument lets you know that God cannot possess those three attributes similtaneuosly, I don't think it lets you know that "God does not exist" - it doesn't rule out the possibility that God exists without possessing those three attributes similtaneously.
For example, God might be omnipotent and omniscient but not omnibenevolent.

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Message 3028 of 3207 (896609)
08-15-2022 5:29 AM
Reply to: Message 3027 by dwise1
08-15-2022 2:38 AM


Re: Pot Meet Kettle?
dwise1 writes:
That small lizard was deserving of empathy and compassion. An evil creationist (pardon the redundancy) scum-sucking bottom-feeding willfully stupid lying troll such as yourself deserves absolutely no empathy nor compassion. For that matter, that small lizard had vastly more humanity than you troll ever could have.
Ouch! That hurts ... so bad.

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Message 3038 of 3207 (896635)
08-15-2022 7:40 PM
Reply to: Message 3025 by Parasomnium
08-14-2022 6:23 PM


Parasomnium writes:
I must say, that is a commendable response to my criticism. In my opinion it even merits an apology (hereby offered) for the harsh tone of my previous message.
Thank you, but no need to apologise ... my dumb argument deserved your criticism. I should avoid writing things in haste.
Hopefully my other response to your argument made more sense.

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Message 3039 of 3207 (896636)
08-15-2022 7:52 PM
Reply to: Message 3032 by ringo
08-15-2022 11:55 AM


ringo writes:
science is never about proof ...
A mutation is defined as a change in the DNA sequence of an organism. You can't "prove" a definition.
So you're saying science can't prove anything about DNA and genetics?

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Message 3057 of 3207 (896675)
08-16-2022 6:32 PM
Reply to: Message 3044 by ringo
08-16-2022 11:58 AM


ringo writes:
Science can't prove anything about anything. How many times do you have to be told?
So science can't even prove that I'm taller than an ant. Wow ... science is so dumb!

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Message 3063 of 3207 (896683)
08-16-2022 7:45 PM
Reply to: Message 3058 by Phat
08-16-2022 6:38 PM


Re: Troll Alert
Even a five year-old child could prove that I'm taller than an ant ... but apparently, science can't. Wtf ... !!

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Message 3098 of 3207 (896799)
08-22-2022 10:05 PM
Reply to: Message 3064 by Phat
08-16-2022 7:48 PM


Re: Troll Alert
Phat writes:
Perhaps their teacher would remind them that they proved nothing. They merely demonstrated it. Keep in mind what the peanut gallery has taught us about "proofs".
What is the difference between
(a) demonstrating that I'm taller than an ant, and
(b) proving that I'm taller than an ant?

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Message 3099 of 3207 (896801)
08-22-2022 10:16 PM
Reply to: Message 3074 by ringo
08-17-2022 11:38 AM


Dredge writes:
So science can't even prove that I'm taller than an ant. Wow ... science is so dumb!
ringo writes:
A brain surgeon can't fly an F-15. Doesn't mean he's dumb.
Why can't science prove that I'm taller than an ant?

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Message 3100 of 3207 (896802)
08-22-2022 10:18 PM
Reply to: Message 3079 by Theodoric
08-17-2022 12:18 PM


Re: Soul Man
Let me guess ... you eventually label every theist on this site a "troll"?
What are the evolutionary ancestors of a troll?

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Message 3101 of 3207 (896803)
08-22-2022 10:22 PM
Reply to: Message 3077 by ringo
08-17-2022 11:50 AM


Re: Troll Alert
Do you know how a tape-measure works?

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Message 3102 of 3207 (896804)
08-22-2022 10:57 PM
Reply to: Message 3082 by ringo
08-17-2022 12:23 PM


Re: Omnichron?
ringo writes:
I pick my own friends.
Do you in fact have any friends?
If so, what are their names?
I have a friend ... his name is Walter.

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Message 3103 of 3207 (896805)
08-22-2022 11:01 PM
Reply to: Message 3084 by Phat
08-17-2022 1:53 PM


Re: Parameters By Definition
Phat writes:
Next thing you know, they will change the wording on the money to "In Gods We Trust".
Or "In Science We Trust" ... even though science can't prove anything (apparently).

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Message 3113 of 3207 (896827)
08-23-2022 8:13 PM
Reply to: Message 3110 by AZPaul3
08-23-2022 7:07 PM


AZPail3 writes:
What would be proof? We can show this is a demonstrable fact. Is that not enough?
Is there a difference between "demonstrable fact" and "proof"?
If so, what is it?

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Message 3115 of 3207 (896829)
08-23-2022 8:31 PM
Reply to: Message 3111 by AZPaul3
08-23-2022 7:46 PM


Re: "In Science We Trust"
Dredge writes:
Science We Trust"
AZPaul3 writes:
A demonstrable fact is a fact. It has no choice. I’m not sure what else could be added. “Fact” is the pinnacle of reality. The more we have, the more of reality we understand.
If science can't prove anything, it can't prove that anything is a fact; nor can science prove anything about reality.
Like evolution.
If science can't prove anything, it can't prove anything about evolution.
We have so many 100s of millions of facts (little pieces of reality) that we can see the patterns in detail and categorize the lot into comprehensive and verified theories of what happened, when and how.
What a pity no theories about how evolution produced the history observed in the fossil record can be verified.
It can't even be verified that life's history is one of a contiguous biological process.
But I'm digressing from the thread, so enuf on that.

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