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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8685 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 6.0
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Astrophysics encouraged learning russian... These days it's mandarin.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2639 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 6.2
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AZPaul3 quips
These days it's mandarin. I can't remember reading any specific Chinese astrophysics books, but the first book by Carl Sagan I read was his first one: an updating of a translated 1963 book by the Russian astronomer I S Shklovskii. This collaboration, published under both their names, was titled Intelligent Life in the Universe (1966). In it they discuss SETI and at the end humorously, but seriously, go into length about whether there is life on Earth and how ET might be able to detect it.Edited by xongsmith, : fix line break in middle of I S Shklovskii's name. "I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside." Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned! Enjoy every sandwich! - xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: |
I assumed that too, but he really needs to fill us in so we can follow his myriad conspiracy theories.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined:
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CCP = Crazy Conspiracy Phat.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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dwise1 Member Posts: 6139 Joined: Member Rating: 6.2 |
In it they discuss SETI and at the end humorously, but seriously, go into length about whether there is life on Earth and how ET might be able to detect it. I've always maintained that the problem for artificial intelligence is that there's nothing in nature to pattern it after.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8685 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 6.0 |
there's nothing in nature to pattern it after. Of course there is ... us. Our goal, our model, the capabilities and the processes we seek to emulate in our AI efforts has always been the human brain. Because we do not comprehend the structure we are attempting to model our efforts have fallen well short of desired but the logic and information processing and creative functions of the human brain have always been the stated goal.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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dwise1 Member Posts: 6139 Joined: Member Rating: 6.2
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The joke is along the same lines as:
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Because we do not comprehend the structure we are attempting to model our efforts have fallen well short of desired but the logic and information processing and creative functions of the human brain have always been the stated goal. Regarding trying to model AI after human brain activity, that would prove rather problematic. Just think of aviation and how all the early attempts to achieve mechanized flight by flapping the wings never succeeded. While birds' wings did provide us a model for the shape of aircraft wings, we use those wings in manners entirely different from those of the birds. Computer hardware and human neural wetware are structured entirely differently and operate on entirely different principles. My thinking was shaped by The Brains of Men and Machines (by Ernest W. Kent, BYTE Books, 1981) which I recommend (if you can find a copy) even though I last read it in the mid-80's. The human brain is not only massively parallel, but also hierarchical as an intended action keeps getting broken down into sub-actions getting assigned to subnetworks (AKA "muscle memory") all the way down to the muscle-pair with its "hardwired" gating system that disables one muscle of that pair while the other muscle is contracting. Oh, and that "muscle memory" gets "programmed" by the human brain's ability to re-wire itself (ie, forming new connections between neurons, which is how stroke victims can relearn how to use their bodies) -- in The Machine That Changed The World, the analogy to that was described as opening up a mainframe computer cabinet and watching it literally rewiring itself. And computers function with sequential threads of execution. I was also trained by the US Air Force in electronic computer systems repair. Part of that training involved chasing sparks through the logic diagrams of an actual functioning CPU, the COMTRAN-10 trainer -- I still have my book of the logic diagrams. I have seen up close and personal how computers actually think. It is sequential, not parallel. There are things that computers can do far better than humans, but there are things that a very young human can do which is beyond what computers can do, like a five-year-old's grasp of human language (in our Spanish/English extended family, the young kids were easily able to keep track of which grandparents used which language). So then rather than trying to model how the human brain works, the task is to figure out how to get computers to perform the same kinds of tasks.
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Phat Member Posts: 18694 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.5
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(Argument redirected from the weather topic Message 34 )
Daniella Cambone works for Stansberry Research. She is a delightful host and has some great interviews with people who actually work in the financial industry and who are (or appear to be) better informed at global financial trends than are the average peanut gallery member who has to actually pay for their own financial advice and advisor and who trusts Source over Content. In the case of these interviews, I trust Content over Source. Edited by Phat, . Edited by Phat, . Edited by Phat, .
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined:
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So you trust racists and homophobes. Also Porter Stansberry has been found guilty of fraud in the past.
quote: Just a moment... Nice source you have there. Oh yeah Daniella. She is a journalist. Nothing more. No expert. But evidently dishonest. Please present more charlatans. Daniela Cambone’s Dishonest Journalism | Investment Research DynamicsWhat can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Taq Member Posts: 10359 Joined: Member Rating: 6.4
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Phat writes: In the case of these interviews, I trust Content over Source. Perfect example of an echo chamber. As long as you agree with you they are a valid source.
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Phat Member Posts: 18694 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.5
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So?
Listen, I don't agree with nor approve of this whole idea that the people back the money and that the money is in the hands of the governments by and for the people. The world as we know it is competitive before it is cooperative. That's human nature. This whole illusion that the West, representative of and backed by the US dollar is a unified force for democracy is a lie. We will fall. And don't blame the Republicans when it happens. Don't blame the rich. Look in the mirror.
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Phat Member Posts: 18694 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.5
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Racists and homophobes, eh? I suppose Porter is lumped in the same camp as Ray Dalio, who is rich and a libertarian. You and your extremist (not evidenced) view of Democracy and reality is both authoritarian and disgusting.
rant writes: Fuck me for having an opinion concerning the future reality of capitalism. All that you seem capable of doing is attacking my sources. I can easily attack yours as well. Your fucked up senile old man of a president can no more build back better than he can understand that the economy of his nation is about to implode. You narrow-minded extremists want to tax the (far right conservative) rich and hold their wallets to the fire, but the fire will end up consuming each one of you and every damn thing you own. And you are too stupid to see it. On the plus side, my inner echo chamber actually approved of Reviewopedia. Why?Here is what it says about another one of my favorites, Jim Rickards. Jim Richards reviewopedia: Lest we forget, there is feedback on reviewopedia itself! It looks to be peer reviewed and reputable.
Reviewopedia Edited by Phat, .
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined:
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2 mins of searching showed he was a racist and bigot. Also, he has no education or expertise in financial and economic matters. He is a publisher of a shady newsletter. Can you find anyone reputable that speaks well of him?
https://www.mediamatters.org/...rs-because-hes-not-least-bit You and your extremist (not evidenced) view of Democracy and reality is both authoritarian and disgusting.
You should really learn the meaning of the words you use. Anti-racist, anti-homophobe and demanding the law to applied justly and equally is not authoritarianism. Please show how my "view" of Democracy is extremist.
Fuck me for having an opinion concerning the future reality of capitalism.
You have no opinion. You just post crap from RWNJ's(right wing nut jobs).
All that you seem capable of doing is attacking my sources. If your source spouts crap, is a convicted fraudster and a racist and homophobe, then this needs to be pointed out. All sources are not equal.
I can easily attack yours as well. But you never seem to be successful at it.
Your fucked up senile old man of a president
So he is not your President? And again you have no evidence for this? I guess you don't love the USA in reality?
You narrow-minded extremists want to tax the (far right conservative) rich
What have they done for you? I want them to pay their fair share. You are ok with people like donnie paying $750 a year in federal taxes?
And you are too stupid to see it.
No I demand evidence. I demand reputable sources. Not charlatans fleecing the rubes.I will put my sources and evidence against the crap you throw against the wall any day. What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Phat Member Posts: 18694 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.5
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Theo writes: Fair enough. At least you are honest. You wear your balls on your sleeve. I demand evidence. I demand reputable sources. Not charlatans fleecing the rubes.I will put my sources and evidence against the crap you throw against the wall any day. BTW I edited my post 132. Edited by Phat, : added last sentence
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9489 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined:
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So present a proposal to have the US dollar backed by gold reserves.
Seems silly and not possible, but go ahead and tell us how it would be done. What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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