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Message 575 of 1429 (896321)
08-05-2022 8:32 PM
Reply to: Message 574 by Dredge
08-05-2022 7:39 PM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
None of the useful "evolutionary principles" described in that paper include the theory that humans evolved from fish.
Would you like to know where your gills went? I can explain it to you. I can even show you fossils. Just a hint: can you spell tiktaalik?
It's Ok if you don't know. It wouldn't help prove your god anyway. Quite the opposite.

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Message 586 of 1429 (896340)
08-06-2022 5:10 PM
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08-06-2022 4:39 PM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
Please provide one example of how ToE has proven useful in treating disease.
You ever get a flu shot?

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Message 593 of 1429 (896352)
08-06-2022 9:19 PM
Reply to: Message 590 by Dredge
08-06-2022 7:35 PM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
Please explain how ToE ...
Serious? The most basic understanding is missing? How do you fight against something you know absolutely nothing about?
ToE details the various mutation vectors for the evolution of organisms and that includes viruses.
What do you think happens to a virus that mutates? Hint: It doesn't go to high mass and mumble hail marys for an hour.

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Message 598 of 1429 (896359)
08-07-2022 10:12 AM
Reply to: Message 595 by Dredge
08-07-2022 8:43 AM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
The point is, no one needs Darwinist folklore to develop vaccines or treat disease ...
Point is, only in understanding the ToE do we have understanding of the vectors of disease and how to formulate vaccines to more effective use.
The fact remains that no one can prove that they know what process produced the changes evident in the fossil record, and therefore no one can claim to know how evolution works.
Liar.
We know exceptionally well the forces and mechanisms that created both the fossil record and the stupidity of catholicism.

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Message 600 of 1429 (896363)
08-07-2022 10:42 AM
Reply to: Message 594 by Dredge
08-07-2022 8:29 AM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
My fragile, eggshell mind.
Yes, we know. Can't even respond to the right poster.

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Message 611 of 1429 (896380)
08-07-2022 3:52 PM
Reply to: Message 610 by Dredge
08-07-2022 2:10 PM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
Hypothetically, a YEC scientist could develop vaccines just as competently as…
What an idiot. We lived through millennia of your pre-science and anti-science YEC-in-charge and all we got for it was bloodletting, trepanning, leeches and burning at the stake. Useless catholic crap.
When YECs, catholics and religious goons like you were in charge humanity suffered blood, pain and stupidity. As soon as science, and especially evolution, were in charge, humanity started curing diseases and has cured thousands ever since. All due to ToE.
You blind, lying piece of religious meat. When the bug comes to get you all your praying leeches, gallons of spilled blood and burnt stakes will do you for nothing. Only ToE derived medicine can save you.
It's not a lie ... it's an inescapable fact you can't prove that know what process produced the changes evident in the fossil record.
Of course your objections are fuckin' lies and you know it! The reality of the ToE painfully sticks in your craw because it means your god didn't created anything and your whole religious edifice crumbles before your eyes.
ToE defines the fossil record and leads human efforts to succeed in fighting disease.
I can see why you're afraid of the ToE. It not only explains life and destroys diseases it does so without any god in sight. Maybe you need to go back to the convent and eat another cracker to soothe over your injured catholic fantasy.

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Message 613 of 1429 (896393)
08-07-2022 5:47 PM
Reply to: Message 612 by Dredge
08-07-2022 5:33 PM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
Didn't think this question through did you.
providing an example of how the theory that all life on earth shares a common ancestor has contribted to the treatment of disease.
Because all life, as described and supported in the ToE, is of the same chemistry. That gives us a big insight into how and why disease, whether pathogenic or genetic, happens and may be treated.
You really are dumb as a, well, a catholic aren't you. God that has to suck.

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Message 615 of 1429 (896396)
08-07-2022 6:56 PM
Reply to: Message 610 by Dredge
08-07-2022 2:10 PM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
it's an inescapable fact you can't prove that know what process produced the changes evident in the fossil record.
You can't prove the ToE did not create the fossil record. You can't prove any other mechanism did created the fossil record.
We have copious evidence that evolution is consistent in its operations as far back in time as we can physically see. We have identified, categorized, and lab/field tested and documented those operations we can see happen. We have no reasons to doubt the mechanisms we have identified extend well into those few remaining unknowable parts of our past.
But your version of “prove” assumes that in those dark hidden parts some unknowable different mechanisms were in operation. Mechanisms that no one has ever seen before. Mechanisms unknown with no details. You insist, without evidence, without reasoning, that our documented mechanisms, as in the ToE, are wrong. That is your burden to prove.
You can’t do it. One too many crackers on the brain.

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Message 617 of 1429 (896399)
08-07-2022 7:54 PM
Reply to: Message 616 by dwise1
08-07-2022 7:32 PM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything

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Message 620 of 1429 (896402)
08-07-2022 10:56 PM
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08-07-2022 8:46 PM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
Dredge writes:
You never accepted the verdict.
Tany? Did you not accept the verdict? Could we have been done with this whole discussion, the whole evolution vs creation debate except you didn't accept the verdict?
Tsk, tsk.

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Message 622 of 1429 (896404)
08-07-2022 11:16 PM
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08-07-2022 11:03 PM


Re: Dredge thinks not knowing everything is not knowing anything
Yeah, I remember that. Are you telling me the Dredge was lying again? That's a 10 commandments violation. His boss is not going to be pleased.

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Message 689 of 1429 (896689)
08-16-2022 8:25 PM
Reply to: Message 685 by Dredge
08-16-2022 6:52 PM


Dredge Doesn't Think
...it means something like "i know it to be fact."
You mean like when the whole world knows evolution. Yeah, that's a fact.

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Message 711 of 1429 (896749)
08-18-2022 4:32 PM
Reply to: Message 710 by Tanypteryx
08-18-2022 11:10 AM


Re: Mr ID is back and still as stupid as ever
He has graduated to new media. Instead of a self-published unprofessional manuscript he is into YouTube vids.
Science by YouTube video. Still cannot show examples or efficacy. Sabine Hossenfelder he's not.

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Message 758 of 1429 (896908)
08-25-2022 11:48 PM
Reply to: Message 757 by Dredge
08-25-2022 11:23 PM


Re: Dredge Doesn't Think
But in a whale, there's no sign whatsoever of a pelvis between its spine and tail - in fact, it's impossible to tell where its spine ends and its tail begins.
For a meat-cracker gourmand it may be impossible but for the intelligent of our species who study these things it's easy to understand. Easy as a piece of tail. And when it comes to believing between you and them I'll go with them.
So Darwinists would have us believe that, through the mysterious magic of evolution, not only did the entire original pelvis detach itself from the spine and tail to operate elsewhere in the body, the tail then attached itself to the base of the spine.
Not mysterious magic ... DNA ... but, yeah that's about right, give or take a detail or two. Does really strange and wonder things like dissolve legs and grow tails. Of course you can't believe in DNA. Food safety regulations don't allow any of that stuff in your meat-crackers.

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Message 761 of 1429 (896931)
08-26-2022 6:46 PM
Reply to: Message 757 by Dredge
08-25-2022 11:23 PM


Re: Dredge Doesn't Think
Ooo, a transgression of the rules! Bad Altar Boy.
At your next cracker-eating session you'll have to say an additional 5 Hail Mary's to atone for the post along with your usual 500 for your lies about the whales.

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