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Message 91 of 131 (896303)
08-05-2022 12:12 PM
Reply to: Message 90 by Percy
08-05-2022 8:37 AM


Another who says I do not understand something, yet will not bother correcting me or showing my error.
Sigh.
If you guys want to jump to conclusions that are wrong and then expect me to straighten you out, try again.
Regards
DL

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Message 92 of 131 (896304)
08-05-2022 12:18 PM


When someone starts saying things like giving power to the fittest and brightest, eugenics usually isn't far behind.
This may be true to some, but not for the most intelligent.
As to the statement itself.

Today, are we not mostly giving our best and brightest the top positions in business, sports, politics, etc.
When do we give top positions to less than the fittest?
Regards
DL

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Message 93 of 131 (896307)
08-05-2022 12:32 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by Greatest I am
08-04-2022 5:27 PM


Greatest I am writes:
... I do not have time to re-read.
And yet you have time to post inane content-free replies.

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-- motto of the Special Olympians

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Message 94 of 131 (896308)
08-05-2022 12:38 PM
Reply to: Message 92 by Greatest I am
08-05-2022 12:18 PM


GIA at the end writes:
When do we give top positions to less than the fittest?
OOOOOOge. GAI slithered into a huge pile of steaming Trumpshit.

Edited by xongsmith, : snakes cannot step


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Message 95 of 131 (896309)
08-05-2022 12:41 PM
Reply to: Message 86 by Greatest I am
08-04-2022 5:33 PM


Greatest I am writes:
I am Canadian.

As a country, we never thought that some of us were created to be beneath others and of lower worth.
That's the propaganda but we have never really lived up to our desired image.
Greatest I am writes:
We never embraced slavery the way right wing Americans and others of low moral intelligence still do.
We JUST had Emancipation Day on August 1:
quote
"This historic day paved the way to freeing over 800,000 enslaved Africans and their descendants in Canada, parts of the Caribbean, Africa, and South America." -- Prime Minister Justin Trudeau
source
And by the way, we've been observing Emancipation Day since waaaaay back in 2021.

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Message 96 of 131 (896310)
08-05-2022 12:44 PM
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08-05-2022 12:12 PM


Greatest I am writes:
If you guys want to jump to conclusions that are wrong and then expect me to straighten you out, try again.
Expecting you to straighten us out is almost the definition of discussion.

"Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt."
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Message 97 of 131 (896311)
08-05-2022 12:49 PM
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08-05-2022 12:41 PM


Emancipation Day.
While some of the a hole U S states want segregation in schools and try hard to stop non-whites from voting.
The good old un-united states.
Regards
DL

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Message 98 of 131 (896312)
08-05-2022 12:54 PM
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08-05-2022 12:18 PM


Greatest I am writes:
This may be true to some, but not for the most intelligent.
The words "most intelligent" tend to make warning lights flash.
(Would the "most intelligent" be you, by any chance?)
Greatest I am writes:
Today, are we not mostly giving our best and brightest the top positions in business, sports, politics, etc.
Top position in politics = POTUS. True.
Best and brightest = Trump. False.
I gues the obvious answer to your question is, "No."
Greatest i am writes:
When do we give top positions to less than the fittest?
See above.

"Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt."
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Message 99 of 131 (896313)
08-05-2022 12:56 PM
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08-05-2022 12:49 PM


Greatest I am writes:
Emancipation Day.

While some of the a hole U S states want segregation in schools and try hard to stop non-whites from voting.
What has that got to do with Emancipation Day?

"Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt."
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Message 100 of 131 (896317)
08-05-2022 2:36 PM
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08-05-2022 12:56 PM


Just showing how it means nothing to many.
Regards
DL

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Message 101 of 131 (896326)
08-06-2022 9:10 AM
Reply to: Message 91 by Greatest I am
08-05-2022 12:12 PM


Greatest I am writes:
Another who says I do not understand something,...
There are online dictionaries where you could look up "eugenics," Dictionary.com for one.
...yet will not bother correcting me or showing my error.
Once you look up eugenics you'll see how it advocates proactively favoring the fittest (and proactively hampering the unfit through means like sterilization and extermination) in order to further improve the breed.
If you guys want to jump to conclusions that are wrong and then expect me to straighten you out, try again.
The connection between favoring the fittest and eugenics seems pretty obvious. If drawing this connection was incorrect in this case then you need merely explain, instead of pretending you don't know what eugenics means.
--Percy

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Message 102 of 131 (896327)
08-06-2022 9:18 AM
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08-05-2022 12:18 PM


Greatest I am writes:
When someone starts saying things like giving power to the fittest and brightest, eugenics usually isn't far behind.

This may be true to some, but not for the most intelligent.
The first sentence is from me, the second from you, but there's no way to tell the difference. I think what you meant to say was this:
quote
Percy writes:
When someone starts saying things like giving power to the fittest and brightest, eugenics usually isn't far behind.

This may be true to some, but not for the most intelligent.
Would you like some help with the quoting codes?
Today, are we not mostly giving our best and brightest the top positions in business, sports, politics, etc.
There's no central authority with the power of "giving our best and brightest the top positions," but you seemed to be advocating for one, hence the eugenics connection.
--Percy

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Message 103 of 131 (896328)
08-06-2022 9:23 AM
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08-06-2022 9:18 AM


The issue has nothing to do with eugenics.
We have always sought our fittest to reward then and advance humanity, I will not talk of punishing the less fit.
Regards
DL

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Message 104 of 131 (896329)
08-06-2022 10:02 AM
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08-06-2022 9:23 AM


Troll
Troll

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 105 of 131 (896330)
08-06-2022 10:40 AM
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08-06-2022 9:23 AM


We have always sought our fittest to reward then and advance humanity
Doing so in a deliberate structured way throughout society IS eugenics. Right now society is a hodge podge of human traits being rewarded through $$$, influence, popularity on the internet, skill in finance, all regardless of your view of fitness. Not a lot of superior intellect in the top 1% but a lot of superior greed. Is this your definition of fit?
So how do you change this? What actions do you take? And what do you do with the vast majority of humanity that does not fit your definition of fit?
I will not talk of punishing the less fit.
Then don't address punishment. It's stupid anyway. But what of the rest of us? How do we unfit fit in your schemes?

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