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Percy Member Posts: 22505 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
Dredge writes: Percy writes: The consensus here seems to be that you're a troll, not an idiot. A troll? If so, that is a grossly unfair assessment; the injustice of the century. I am here to bring light to the darkness of confusion and delusion. People trying to be constructive and helpful don't behave the way you do. Examples of your trollish behavior are your absurd comments about your IQ, ignoring responses, just repeating your initial argument over and over again no matter what is posted in response, and playing games with word definitions. These are all typical behaviors of trolls. --Percy
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
Explain. A shameful example of contextomy."Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt." -- motto of the Special Olympians
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
AZPaul3 writes:
You think evolution proves that God is a fantasy? If so, that supports my theory that evolution is a product of atheism.
There are literally millions of data points that evidence evolution on a macro scale. Your lie that we do not have or understand this data is your religious intransigence against actual knowledge. Knowledge that calls your god a fantasy.
Your presence here is your continued attempt to subvert reality to foster the Big Lie that your god exists. It doesn’t. And you cannot show otherwise.
I can sum up your sermon with three sad words: Manifest Delusion.
We can show evolution as defined by the ToE. We can show micro to macro in the fossil record as well as in the lab. We know how whales evolved from pakicetus over 50 million years. We have the data. We have the fossils. And those that study these things all agree the evidence is conclusive. Whales evolved from the 4-legged land animal pakicetus and we know each step along the way and we have lots of fossils of the intermediate forms like ambulocetus, remingtoncetus and basilsaurus. And we can chart the same for millions of organism. Your contention that we do not know these things is a ridiculous fabrication borne of your catholic-centered stupidity and a deep need for you to lie your god back into contention as effective in this universe. The ToE is real. Your god is not.
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
But he's smarter than you.
Even the village idiot knows... Dredge writes:
Stop saying "prove".
... that no one will ever be able to prove... Dredge writes:
What's arrogant about refusing to accept the pronouncements of a fool like you?
Who's being arrogant now? Dredge writes:
You certainly did. You have claimed repeatedly in this thread that "nobody can know x". I'm saying that YOU can not know what other people can know.
You must be confusing me with someone else ... I never made that claim. Dredge writes:
Yes it is - and you are in no position to pontificate about it, idiot.
A theory is not knowledge... Dredge writes:
It's the BEST description and explanation available. And that's the only kind of knowledge we have about anything. ... it's just an idea that descibes a possibility."Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt." -- motto of the Special Olympians
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
Why on earth would we be advised by an idiot? Please be advised that ToE is neither a fact and nor is it knowledge. YOU should be advised that your admission of being unintelligent makes everything you say irrelevant."Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt." -- motto of the Special Olympians
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 5.3
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You think evolution proves that God is a fantasy? Maybe we are getting to the core of the issue. Dredge is apparently worried that evolution somehow refutes his religion. Sorry, you have missed by a mile (or more). Evolution tells us nothing about God. It is the behavior of the god-bots (that includes you) that persuade us that your God is a fantasy.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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You think evolution proves that God is a fantasy? If so, that supports my theory that evolution is a product of atheism. Oh, not just evolution calls your god fake, so do physics, cosmology, chemistry, and all the sciences. Your god is an unevidenced fantasy. And it has nothing to do with atheism. It has to do with the fact that there is nothing there. There is nothing you can show that evidences your god. And, as usual, that which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence*. Evolution alone does not prove your god false. All of reality in the universe combined rejects your god because there is nothing there. That is the evidence of your god's true nature. Your god is a delusion. *Some smart guy.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
ringo writes:
In Message 343 I made the point that using science to explain evolutionary transitions in the fossil record is pointless unless the explanation can be proven to be correct ... in other words, without that proof, using science in that context is irrelevant. Explain. But you've ignored the context and taken the words "science is irrelevant" to make the absurd claim in Message 351 that I think all science is irrelevant. Why did you do that?
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
AZPaul3 writes:
I didn't know that.
Oh, not just evolution calls your god fake, so do physics, cosmology, chemistry, and all the sciences.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
AZPaul3 writes:
I didn't know that.
Evolution alone does not prove your god false. All of reality in the universe combined rejects your god because there is nothing there. That is the evidence of your god's true nature. Your god is a delusion.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
AZPaul3 writes:
A shameful display of gross mendacity on my part, by the sounds of it..
Just from the opening messages from you in this thread I find 5 absolute lies. I couldn’t go any more. There are so many lies in your posts I can’t stomach to swamp through them all.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Tanypteryx writes:
I implied no such thing. You have a vivid imagination, I must say ... no wonder you're a Darwinist!
Anyway, when you paste his scientific achievements into a post about ID, you are implying that ID is supported by his work in paleontology and entomology, but that is not the case at all.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
dwise1 writes:
Thank you.
but he's pure creationist in all other ways.
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
And that point has been refuted six ways from Sunday.
In Message 343 I made the point that using science to explain evolutionary transitions in the fossil record is pointless unless the explanation can be proven to be correct ... Dredge writes:
And you've also been told six ways from Sunday that science has nothing to do with proof.
... in other words, without that proof, using science in that context is irrelevant. Dredge writes:
It's clear that you do think all science is irrelevant because you continue to talk about "proof" and you refuse to learn anything about science.
But you've ignored the context and taken the words "science is irrelevant" to make the absurd claim in Message 351 that I think all science is irrelevant. Dredge writes:
Because some poor innocent person who only got the Internet yesterday might think we don't know how to deal with assholes like you. As long as you continue to post rubbish, somebody has to clean it up. Why did you do that?"Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt." -- motto of the Special Olympians
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.5
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I implied no such thing. Of course you did, there's no other reason for posting all the BS about his scientific achievements. After reading the latest crap he has written about evolution, I find I am skeptical of the integrity of his work on Odonate fossils.
You have a vivid imagination, I must say ... no wonder you're a Darwinist! Yep, I do. I don't know what the three dots mean, but the last part demonstrates your vivid imagination. I am actually an Odonatist.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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