Coffee House Musings on Creationist Topic Proposals

Didn't your mommy ever warn you to not look in the mirror when you're projecting your own failings on others?Also, does your mommy know that, despite being a middle-grade idiot who's also willfully stupid, you have somehow figured out how to defeat the child-proofing locks on the computer room door?And I strongly suspect that you are padding your resume. Your IQ cannot possibly be as high as 10. You keep proving that it must be much lower.Your particular pathology makes me wonder: is a negative IQ score possible? In case that big word, "negative", confuses you, it means "less than zero."

That is a grossly unfair and offensive comment. I said I have an IQ of 9 and that therefore I qualify as an idiot ... an idiot is not "mindless". That is an excellent question and I thank you for it.I will answer it by saying that sometimes even an idiot gets it right. As a matter of fact, all of my opinions and insights expressed on this site have been right.

What? I was referring to Bechly's argument, not mine.

Firstly, too late ... it's pretty safe to assume that someone with an IQ of 9 is already stupid.Secondly, you don't want to talk about proof because you know full well that you can't prove that ToE describes the process that shaped the history of life on earth. Your mind doesn't want to venture outside it's safe and warm little bubble of Darwinist belief.

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Scientific knowledge is tentative and based on evidence. It does not require proof. Wrong.I actually believe that all biological organisms (including bacteria) have some degree of intelligence. And evolution amounts to them collectively using that intelligence to design future populations.As I see it, this is intelligent design in nature. However, it is not the kind of intelligence nor the kind of design that the ID movement is peddling.

Prove it's false.And while you're at it answer Message 424. Show us where all the world is wrong on whale evolution.You can't do it. You're a fake. You're a charlatan claiming special knowledge but you are dumb as a stump.And, yes, we do indeed know the evolutionary mechanisms that wrote the fossil record that sticks in your craw so painfully. We have the evidence. We have the fossils. We have the reality that you are so desperate to deny.And you display this wonton stupidity openly, proudly, like a little boy strutting around with his first dot of catholic ash on his catholic forehead. You have fallen to the abject insanity of your priests and whatever intellect you may have once had has been choked out of you leaving a pliable unthinking catholic drone.Drone Dredge may be of great benefit to the priests as you bend over the altar, Altar Boy, but you are useless to human society. And really, ungodly fuckin dumb, too.

All you can know from fossils is that "evolution" happened. The fossils don't let you know HOW "evolution" happened. Grow up.

Not a lie. It's a demonstrable fact that millions of folks believe that ToE is a fact - you're one of them. BS. You don't know how even one evolutionary transition evident in the fossil record happened!

You don't know that whales evolved according to ToE. All you can do is speculate."It is easy enough to make up stories of how one form gave rise to another, and to find reasons why the stages should be favoured by natural selection. But such stories are not part of science, for there is no way to put them to the test."
Dr. Colin Patterson

Hilarious.

For a Darwinist, you're rather out of touch with the correct terminolgy.

Yes they do. You are just too stupid to understand how. You cannot dispute the facts presented in Message 424. Indeed we have such knowledge of the evolutionary transitions of millions of critters. Again, you're just too stupid to see it. Yes, we do. Again, you're just too stupid to see it.But even if you had the intellect you could not look upon the brilliant glare of reality that leads to the end of your god. It would burn your eyes. So you ignore any facts and any reasoning and just knee-jerk "you can't prove". Must maintain the fantasy at all costs.You are a liar, Altar Boy. And you are going to hell for it, so I hear.

Once again, science does not work with proofs - it works with falsifiable hypotheses, supported by evidence. Science does not prove anything - it provides the best current explanations for phenomena, which refine and evolve as our understandings and capabilities grow. Scientific proof is not a concept which exists - you're lying to people who know you are lying, and you've got nowhere to go other than to repeat the lies.

Make that willfully stupid. Which, along with gross dishonesty and lying, is an occupational hazard for creationists. Creationism corrupts them into it and they need it to remain a creationist. Certainly, that would be the case if he knew what he was doing. But he doesn't.Another powerful factor is his near-total ignorance! He literally has no clue what he is talking about.He doesn't understand anything about the actual science nor about how anything actually works. Instead, creationism has replaced all that with nonsensical misrepresentations and redefinitions. In that way, creationism has deceived him and perverted him.But he not only doesn't understand anything about the science, he also doesn't understand anything about his own claims! No creationist understands the claims and "arguments" that he presents and it shows! We have witnessed that just about every single time we try to discuss a creationist's own claim with him. He simply cannot discuss his own claim, nor support it in any way, nor defend it. All he knows is how to repeat it, and nothing else. All he knows is the wording, but he has no clue what the claim/argument means, what it is based on, what its assumptions are, anything at all except for how to repeat it!I remember how the new Jesus Freaks were being trained at the beginning of that movement circa 1970. They read scripts of proselytizing "conversations", often in cartoon form, and memorized them. Then when they had found a victim, they would use the script. Well, I had eyes to see and ears to hear (Matthew 13:9-17 -- which is quite different from Sludge's misunderstanding of his purportedly own Scripture (he could be lying about that too) ) having seen that training, so I developed a fool-proof defense against their subterfuge: I would routinely go off-script with them and confuse the hell out of them. They don't understand their own scripts -- all they know is that they were taught those scripts worked every time, that there was no defense against them.Well, yes there is a defense against their scripts: address them directly and elicit honest discussion. No proselytizer has any response to that except to either change the subject or become increasingly hostile, even to the point of becoming a sludge-dwelling troll. As we have seen creationists do repeatedly -- for me, I've seen it as typical creationist behavior for the past 35 years.They do not even know their own claims and arguments enough to be able to reword them. Any deviation from the exact wording that they had memorized is far above their pay-grade. They cannot do it!That is why they find themselves reduced to just repeating the exact same wording over and over again. Mindlessly regurgitating the BS they had been taught.

There you go projecting your own willful stupidity and ignorance yet again. You are the one who is out of touch with the correct terminology (and unable to even spell the word). And by nearly a century at that!But what else can we expect from a self-professed mid-grade idiot (self-revealed IQ of 9 (nine)), and a willfully stupid one at that? By definition, an idiot possesses the mental capacity of a three-year-old, but that would be for the high end of being an idiot, whereas you are self-professedly considerably below that mark. And your persistent demonstrations of your vast mental incompetence still leads me to suspect that you are padding your résumé shamelessly by grossly inflating your IQ -- yet again I wonder if there is such a thing as a negative IQ score; if not, then your particular pathology would require its invention.My elder grandson is three years old, so I was reminded of my experience with both my sons when they were that age. Like his father and uncle before him, my three-year-old grandson is very smart and is a fast learner. Despite that, it is difficult to have a meaningful conversation about a serious subject with him or to explain even simple science to him (eg, to him and his younger brother atoms and planets are both "balls"). And he has very little to contribute to a meaningful discussion about a serious subject. And yet, what contributions he would make would be far more constructive and of far better quality than anything you have ever uttered here.So then your three-year-old's mental capacity is far inferior to my grandson's. And a very big reason for that is your own willful stupidity. 
I am not a Darwinist, but rather a neo-Darwinist. For that matter, I very much doubt that any member of this forum (especially among the ones who do accept evolution) who would be a Darwinist.There are very big differences between Darwinists and neo-Darwinists.
Several of us have already gone to great pains to inform you of those differences which include genetics and population genetics. All of which you have ignored out of sheer willful stupidity.You are indeed one of the stupidest creationists we have ever encountered. We would like to think that nobody is irredeemable, yet you continually prove that you are. 

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