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Author Topic:   The War in Europe
ringo
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From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 831 of 995 (895132)
06-08-2022 12:44 PM
Reply to: Message 830 by coffee_addict
06-08-2022 10:36 AM


coffee_addict writes:
I live just outside a major metropolitan area (aka primary ICBM target).
I live in the middle of nowhere - but due north of the air base at Minot, North Dakota (we used to watch the contrails of the B-52s heading north to Russia) and downwind of the missile base at Malmstrom Montana.
There's nowhere to hide.

"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!"
-- Lucky Ned Pepper

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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 836 of 995 (895168)
06-10-2022 11:54 AM
Reply to: Message 834 by Phat
06-10-2022 5:29 AM


Re: How seriously are we taking what Putin says these days?
Phat writes:
He is fighting a war of the future that none of us want... scramble for food..
He's fighting a war of the past.
With today's technology, war requires a lot of resources. Trying to gain resources by war is futile.

"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!"
-- Lucky Ned Pepper

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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


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Message 838 of 995 (895177)
06-11-2022 11:43 AM
Reply to: Message 837 by Phat
06-10-2022 6:14 PM


Re: How seriously are we taking what Putin says these days?
Phat writes:
Remember the quote about those not remembering the mistakes
Of the past being condemned to repeat history?
That's what I'm saying: Putin is fighting the wars of the past, when armies foraged as they went, when wooden sailing ships could stop anywhere for frsh water and provisions and for repairs.
Today's armies need a vast infrastructure of logistics. You can't rely on local gas stations to fuel your tanks or local farmers to feed your troops.
Gaining anything material through warfare is a thing of the past. Putin might win control of Ukraine but he can never get back the resources he has already squandered.

"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!"
-- Lucky Ned Pepper

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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 859 of 995 (895702)
07-11-2022 12:35 PM
Reply to: Message 849 by Phat
07-09-2022 3:43 PM


Re: The War Drags On
Phat writes:
Russia cant match us in the skies.
That's what Hermann Meier said about Britain in 1940.

"Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt."
-- motto of the Special Olympians

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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 862 of 995 (895710)
07-12-2022 11:40 AM
Reply to: Message 861 by Phat
07-12-2022 10:15 AM


Re: The War Drags On
Phat writes:
Surely you mean Goering.
I was going to say "Fat Hermann" but I decided to add another layer of mystery.

"Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt."
-- motto of the Special Olympians

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ringo
Member (Idle past 434 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 872 of 995 (895733)
07-16-2022 11:48 AM
Reply to: Message 867 by Phat
07-15-2022 3:31 PM


Re: The War Drags On
Phat writes:
It would be the equivalent of Canada seeking to join BRIC. The US would NOT put up with it.
What would you do about it?
Phat writes:
I think you are driven by politics over substance.
So you still don't own a mirror.
Phat writes:
I end up finding information that is swept under the rug...
Or lies that your right-wing handlers want you to think have been swept under the rug.
Phat writes:
... and ignored by mainstream economic (Federal) information.
What is "Federal information"? Is it something like "German physics"? Or does it just mean you don't like governments in general?
Phat writes:
The problem is, I cant get anyone here to actually watch the explanation....
The problem is that you can't explain the "explanation" in your own words which suggests that you don't actually understand it. And that suggests that it doesn't make any sense in the first place.
Phat writes:
I challenge you on what you really "know".
Right back atcha - and you always refuse to accept the challenge.

"Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt."
-- motto of the Special Olympians

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