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Author Topic:   I Know That God Does Not Exist
ringo
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Message 2881 of 2911 (895614)
07-08-2022 11:45 AM
Reply to: Message 2880 by Dredge
07-08-2022 6:11 AM


Re: You The Man
Dredge writes:
One of the few things a halfwit can do competently is recognize another halfwit.
That's clearly false, otherwise all of those halfwits wouldn't have voted for Trump.

"Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt."
-- motto of the Special Olympians

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Percy
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Message 2882 of 2911 (895620)
07-08-2022 5:16 PM
Reply to: Message 2881 by ringo
07-08-2022 11:45 AM


Re: You The Man
ringo writes:
That's clearly false, otherwise all of those halfwits wouldn't have voted for Trump.
Or possibly they wanted one of their own in charge?
--Percy

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Dredge
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Message 2883 of 2911 (895621)
07-08-2022 9:53 PM
Reply to: Message 2881 by ringo
07-08-2022 11:45 AM


Re: You The Man
ringo writes:
That's clearly false, otherwise all of those halfwits wouldn't have voted for Trump.
Some who voted for Trump certainly were halfwits ... the halfwits who stormed the Capitol Building, for example. I imagine their average IQ would have been even less than mine (9).
How long do you think it will be before Biden has to use sign-language to communicate and a walking-frame to shuffle around on?
And that creepy old witch, Nancy Pelosi ... how does she keep escaping her retirement home?

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AZPaul3
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Message 2884 of 2911 (895622)
07-09-2022 12:07 AM
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07-08-2022 9:53 PM


Re: You The Man
You got a problem with old people? Not all are incompetent or incontinent.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Theodoric
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Message 2885 of 2911 (895623)
07-09-2022 1:31 AM
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07-08-2022 9:53 PM


Re: You The Man
Again, none of what you say is based on factual data

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Percy
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Message 2886 of 2911 (895625)
07-09-2022 10:18 AM
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07-08-2022 9:53 PM


Re: You The Man
So you're an agist, too.
--Percy

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ringo
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Message 2887 of 2911 (895628)
07-09-2022 11:43 AM
Reply to: Message 2883 by Dredge
07-08-2022 9:53 PM


Re: You The Man
Dredge writes:
Some who voted for Trump certainly were halfwits ...
And some of them were evil. And some of them may have been both. It's hard to tell the difference sometimes.
Dredge writes:
... the halfwits who stormed the Capitol Building, for example.
Case in point. The followers were half-wits but the leaders were definitely evil.

"Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt."
-- motto of the Special Olympians

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Parasomnium
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Message 2888 of 2911 (896353)
08-07-2022 8:18 AM
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07-08-2022 9:53 PM


Re: You The Man
Dredge writes:
How long do you think it will be before Biden has to use sign-language to communicate and a walking-frame to shuffle around on?
And that creepy old witch, Nancy Pelosi ... how does she keep escaping her retirement home?
May I remind you of the late Stephen Hawking? He was far beyond the use of sign-language and a walking frame to "shuffle around on" - as you so sympathetically put it. Yet we all know his contributions to his field were world-class.
If all you can muster about Biden and Pelosi is the use of snide insults concerning their age or physical fitness, you must have run out of real arguments.

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin.

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Message 2889 of 2911 (896358)
08-07-2022 9:31 AM
Reply to: Message 2888 by Parasomnium
08-07-2022 8:18 AM


Re: You The Man
He never had any real arguments..

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Dredge
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Message 2890 of 2911 (896377)
08-07-2022 2:45 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Stile
10-10-2012 2:27 PM


You know that God does not exist?
Yeah, right ... just like I know I'm going to win the lottery. LOL!!

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Parasomnium
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Message 2891 of 2911 (896378)
08-07-2022 3:27 PM
Reply to: Message 2890 by Dredge
08-07-2022 2:45 PM


That's a nice move, Dredge, ignoring the whole thread and starting all over again.
Dredge writes:
[...] just like I know I'm going to win the lottery [...]
Obviously, you've missed the finesse of Stile's argument. Stile talks about knowing that things do or don't exist, and you say that's "just like" knowing the future. These concepts are not the same at all, of course. And if you really thought about it, you'd know that.

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." - Charles Darwin.

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Phat
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Message 2892 of 2911 (896379)
08-07-2022 3:32 PM
Reply to: Message 2890 by Dredge
08-07-2022 2:45 PM


I Dont Care About Proving The Absence of God.
Basically, the argument here is that absence of evidence equals evidence of absence.
If you combine that with a general disdain for organized religion in general as well as lumping most Christians in with Republicans,
These evidence-based thinkers are practical and precise, but they would dismiss any God that we imagine to exist as fantasy based. Without solid objective unbiased evidence, they have written a relationship with God off of their to-do list.
Ringo even goes so far as to argue that the entire concept of God is relative to the individual. I disagree because the relationship is a two-way street and apart from the still small voice whom I pray to and talk with, no non-Judeo Christian candidate is ever heard from. Except to destroy me. The demons masquerade as God's still small voice whenever I am dissatisfied with my lot in life and want something that I don't have. I can explain more fully through audio conversation rather than this tedious chore of written argument.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
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“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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AZPaul3
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Message 2893 of 2911 (896381)
08-07-2022 4:04 PM
Reply to: Message 2890 by Dredge
08-07-2022 2:45 PM


You know that God does not exist?

Yeah, right ... just like I know I'm going to win the lottery. LOL!!
So this means you have proof your version of god really actually exists?
Show me.

Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!

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Dredge
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Message 2894 of 2911 (896382)
08-07-2022 4:07 PM
Reply to: Message 2891 by Parasomnium
08-07-2022 3:27 PM


It's axiomatic that any argument that ends with "I know that God does not exist" is a stupid argument.

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Dredge
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Message 2895 of 2911 (896383)
08-07-2022 4:10 PM
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08-07-2022 4:04 PM


AZPaul3 writes:
So this means you have proof your version of god really actually exists?
I don't recall making that claim.

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