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Author Topic:   Did Justice Elena Kagan lie to Congress?
Sarah Bellum
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Message 40 of 66 (895583)
07-07-2022 9:07 AM
Reply to: Message 34 by Tanypteryx
07-05-2022 9:17 PM


Re: Why don't you try to.make an actual argument to discuss.
That moron patronizingly implied I'd erred in not posting references to something that is common knowledge, then, when I did post references (instead of saying "Look it up yourself, I'm not responsible for your ignorance!"), they condescendingly replied "Was that so hard?" and then lectured smugly, "That is how we do things in this forum."
I'm beginning to agree with nwr. Maybe it is time to close this thread.

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Sarah Bellum
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Message 41 of 66 (895584)
07-07-2022 9:09 AM
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07-06-2022 10:41 AM


So does this mean you're going for the third alternative, that she used enough cleverly chosen verbiage so that what she said wasn't a lie, but could be interpreted by her listeners in disparate ways?

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Message 42 of 66 (895585)
07-07-2022 9:19 AM
Reply to: Message 32 by AZPaul3
07-05-2022 5:39 PM


Re: It's Politics
The point is, of course, that nobody lied in their testimony. Back when Robert Bork was nominated, Senators weren't quite so dim as they are nowadays (and I'm talking about you Senator Collins!) and voted against him, despite what he may or may not have said at the hearings. Because they considered other things about his record than the tiny fraction of it that consisted of his words at a Congressional hearing!

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Message 43 of 66 (895586)
07-07-2022 9:28 AM
Reply to: Message 33 by Theodoric
07-05-2022 6:32 PM


Re: Why don't you try to.make an actual argument to discuss.
It all depends. If I'd quoted from Grover Cleveland's second inaugural, you might ask for references. If I'd quoted from Lincoln's, maybe not.

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Message 44 of 66 (895587)
07-07-2022 9:29 AM
Reply to: Message 35 by nwr
07-05-2022 10:59 PM


Re: Close the thread
I'm beginning to think maybe it is that time.

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Message 45 of 66 (895588)
07-07-2022 9:36 AM
Reply to: Message 39 by Percy
07-06-2022 10:52 AM


Re: Why don't you try to.make an actual argument to discuss.
In the days of majority leader Lyndon Johnson people like Manchin and Sinema wouldn't have been able to pull their stunts.
But nowadays Congress seems to be a place that passes vague legislation (or more commonly blocks it) and hopes properly placed people in the federal bureaucracy do what they want. Oh, and they also try to get people appointed to the courts to do what they want (or more commonly block what they don't want).
Then they use the controversy to raise money for the next election.

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Sarah Bellum
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Message 49 of 66 (895596)
07-07-2022 1:25 PM
Reply to: Message 47 by Theodoric
07-07-2022 1:01 PM


Re: Why don't you try to.make an actual argument to discuss.
This just proves my point. You say "Many quotes attributed to famous people are not true," which is certainly a true statement. Everyone knows it's true. So there's no need to provide references for it. So you didn't provide references. And of course nobody is calling you out for not providing references.
That is how we do things in this forum.

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Sarah Bellum
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Message 54 of 66 (895609)
07-08-2022 9:22 AM
Reply to: Message 51 by Theodoric
07-07-2022 1:34 PM


Re: Why don't you try to.make an actual argument to discuss.
I've counted about a dozen posts you've made. None said anything substantive. Most were just whining. How can you say "goodbye" if you never were here in the first place?

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Sarah Bellum
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Message 55 of 66 (895610)
07-08-2022 9:34 AM
Reply to: Message 53 by AZPaul3
07-07-2022 8:35 PM


Re: Resource Relativity
When Stephen Hawking appeared on Star Trek, Brent Spiner made a joke about Einstein appearing on Gunsmoke. Some people took it seriously.
Albert Einstein and Gunsmoke

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Sarah Bellum
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Message 57 of 66 (895617)
07-08-2022 3:38 PM
Reply to: Message 56 by ringo
07-08-2022 12:02 PM


Re: Resource Relativity
And your playful (if content-free) gibes are one of the many reasons why I make time in my schedule to get out my phone and check on the activity at this website!

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Sarah Bellum
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Message 59 of 66 (895673)
07-10-2022 1:25 PM
Reply to: Message 58 by AZPaul3
07-08-2022 4:22 PM


Re: Resource Relativity
Really? If you say so, I will do my best to believe it, but . . .

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Sarah Bellum
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Message 62 of 66 (896478)
08-10-2022 2:19 PM
Reply to: Message 50 by Percy
07-07-2022 1:26 PM


Re: Why don't you try to.make an actual argument to discuss.
It's not a question of how many people you have, it's how you lead. All other things being equal, of course, a leader can do more with more votes behind them. But all other things are rarely equal!
Even in the minority, a well-led bloc of legislators can accomplish a lot. For example, if the minority had been able to persuade Senator Collins to vote differently on a certain Supreme Court nomination when she was in the majority, things would be very different now. On the other hand, a poorly-led majority, like what Senator Schumer has, might as well not be a majority at all.

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Sarah Bellum
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Message 63 of 66 (896479)
08-10-2022 2:20 PM
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07-11-2022 12:30 PM


Re: Resource Relativity
Whatever planet you're from, I'm guessing they don't have sarcasm!
Just another reason it's not worth checking in here very often.

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