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Message 11 of 66 (895527)
07-05-2022 9:48 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by Sarah Bellum
07-05-2022 9:13 AM


Re: Why don't you try to.make an actual argument to discuss.
I think that the Republican efforts to pack the Court with ideologically-correct justices have far more of a “whiff of banana republic about them” than any measures to correct the situation.

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Message 23 of 66 (895545)
07-05-2022 2:58 PM
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07-05-2022 2:53 PM


Re: Why don't you try to.make an actual argument to discuss.
The difference is that the Republicans have openly done it. Redressing the balance would be steering the country away from being a “banana republic”. But it seems that you don’t want that.

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Message 25 of 66 (895547)
07-05-2022 3:31 PM
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07-05-2022 3:15 PM


Re: Why don't you try to.make an actual argument to discuss.
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Oh, no, if President Biden could appoint, say, four new justices, which he can, given Democrat control of Congress, that would bring things back into balance, and we could go back to Roe
Sinema and Manchin are hardly guaranteed to go along with any such plan, and I’m not suggesting another reversal anyway - just forestalling more atrocious decisions. For all it’s bad effects reversing Roe is hardly the worst decision this Court has made, and if Thomas has his way, worse is still to come.

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Message 36 of 66 (895568)
07-06-2022 12:14 AM
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07-05-2022 5:22 PM


Re: Why don't you try to.make an actual argument to discuss.
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A "reversal" would scarcely be necessary. In Dobbs the Supreme Court didn't "ban" abortion, it merely returned us to the (very bad days) of pre-Roe abortion law.
Nevertheless it is what you suggested.
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All Congress has to do now is pass a law guaranteeing a right to an abortion. Such a law wouldn't be struck down by the Supreme Court (otherwise it would have already struck down laws in states like Oregon or Vermont).
I suggest that even if cases against these laws had come to the Supreme Court - and who would file such cases on what grounds? - they could hardly have prevailed while Roe stood. A Federal law could more easily be challenged.

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