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AZPaul3
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Message 934 of 1184 (895010)
06-06-2022 1:15 AM
Reply to: Message 932 by marc9000
06-05-2022 8:30 PM


Re: Biden's speech
What if we went house-to-house confiscating all guns, would that be to your liking?

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Message 971 of 1184 (895107)
06-08-2022 9:57 AM
Reply to: Message 969 by jar
06-08-2022 7:58 AM


9 mm Smoke and Mirrors
But again, the problem is violence not guns.

The US needs to address the root causes of the extreme violence so common in the US.
Smoke and mirrors, jar. The school room / concert / shopping mall lone shooter is not motivated by anger regardless of their testaments. They are motived by psychotic disconnects in the brain. The only impediment to their crazy action, which should be treatment but not in this society, is the availability of powerful guns. There are too many guns in this society. Until that situation is addressed the lone mass shooter will continue to terrorize.
Now street crime, city crime. Jar, violence is a manifestation of mad in a society. Why should large segments of our society be mad? Keep minimum wage depressed, education depressed, health care, voting rights, personal liberties all depressed by the political elite, the republicans, to keep a lock on power. That is more than pissing off the targeted communities. It has radicalized the mad into anarchy in the hood and the barrio where there is an easy steady flow of guns. Of course they are going to be fuckin mad.
If we had a society that would address these racist and fascist policies then we could greatly affect this mad issue and thus the gun violence issue, but we don’t. The fix takes generations of time and money and power sharing. Republicans won’t allow that to happen. That leaves only the one remedy to try now, today, with hopes of reducing these, so easily done, killings in the next decade. Limit the availability of guns.
Jar, you should lead your neighborhood into having a big town party where everyone brings their guns to the WalMart parking lot where they are run over by a huge steamroller, crushed and sold off for scrap with the proceeds going to the Community Kitchen. Instead you insist on exacerbating the problem with more gun culture.
The availability of guns is the issue, jar. The mad and the hate and the crazy lone shooter are human manifestations and will remain forever. If you don’t want people shooting other people so easily, readily and often, then lose the fucking guns.
Your usually enlightened human spirit is on the wrong side of this one, jar.

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AZPaul3
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Message 974 of 1184 (895111)
06-08-2022 10:34 AM
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06-08-2022 10:14 AM


Re: 9 mm Smoke and Mirrors
So what is the model, method, mechanism. process and procedure that has even a slightly greater than zero chance of working?
No idea, but we should try something. This pile of crap isn't going to shovel itself away.
Let's start by repealing the second amendment. Make the manufacture, import, sale, possession of any gun or rifle illegal. Have federal and local law officers confiscate any guns they encounter. Confiscate all guns in dozens of Waco Compound and Ruby Ridge raids all across the country.
Then, after 2 generations, 50 years, we can assess whether we have addressed the issue adequately.
If not, and you gun nuts lose your popguns for nothing, then we'll apologize ... with earnest sincerity.

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Message 975 of 1184 (895113)
06-08-2022 10:37 AM
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06-08-2022 10:14 AM


Re: 9 mm Smoke and Mirrors
There is only ONE gun dealer store in all of Mexico.
What? The biggest fuckin gun store in the whole world is just a walk across the border. What are you talking about?

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AZPaul3
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Message 978 of 1184 (895117)
06-08-2022 11:44 AM
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06-08-2022 11:42 AM


Re: 9 mm Smoke and Mirrors
Insignificant to any issue in this thread. Mexico mean nothing unless you're really reaching into never-never land for some kind of pro-gun argument.

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Message 992 of 1184 (895138)
06-08-2022 3:04 PM
Reply to: Message 991 by jar
06-08-2022 2:30 PM


We have the nation we desire.
Desire or deserve, jar?

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Message 996 of 1184 (895143)
06-08-2022 6:18 PM
Reply to: Message 995 by Phat
06-08-2022 6:11 PM


Re: Where are all the good guys with guns?
Have you seen Exxon's profits?

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AZPaul3
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Message 997 of 1184 (895144)
06-08-2022 6:29 PM
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06-08-2022 4:22 PM


Re: Where are all the good guys with guns?
Unfortunately, it seems that there is simply no desire to actually approve, fund and implement what needs to be done.
We have known this for a while.
Message 917

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AZPaul3
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Message 999 of 1184 (895147)
06-08-2022 7:13 PM
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06-08-2022 6:40 PM


Re: Where are all the good guys with guns?
That could change if the political will is there. Just tax them an extra $500 billion this year. Easy.
And then we can go get the other Big Capitalist hoards of cash.

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Message 1010 of 1184 (895165)
06-10-2022 9:22 AM


Lethal Nerf Balls
Please, the two of you, stop giving crazy people advice on how to do mass killings. Weaponizing sporting equipment is more dangerous than I think either of you appreciate. We Americans may hear you and … well you know how we like innovation. Our crazies may weaponized their 9 irons and tennis rackets in their next attacks. If that happens the whole gun culture in this country could come tumbling down.

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Message 1026 of 1184 (895238)
06-16-2022 3:05 PM
Reply to: Message 1021 by marc9000
06-16-2022 6:15 AM


Re: Biden's speech
As usual with most things in this society marc9000 apparently does not know what a conspiracy theory is.
You were asked to find one left-wing conspiracy and instead you present us with a list of truisms about Trumps failings as president.
You shot your whole argument in the head. Again.
It's alright. On the left, what you would consider some underground clandestine effort to stop republicans, are in fact open concerted efforts. No conspiracy needed.
How can you function in society with such an extreme lack of intellect?

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Message 1034 of 1184 (895251)
06-17-2022 11:01 PM
Reply to: Message 1028 by marc9000
06-16-2022 10:04 PM


Re: Biden's speech
It's lonely being just about the only American who didn't fall in passionate love with Biden when he closed the Keystone Pipeline.
Didn’t close any pipeline. Stopped construction on an extension of Keystone. Stopped construction. You do tend to think well behind the times.
Or gave the Taliban the entire country of Afghanistan
It wasn’t his to give. It always belonged to the Taliban. Still swallowing that colonialist, white-christian-knows-best bullshit. You really are behind the times.
plus millions of dollars worth of U.S. weaponry.
There’s a hell of a lot more where that came from. The USofA can’t walk through a peaceful park without leaving billions in junk behind. Were you thinking that would have funded your pension? Stupid American. That’s only for foreigners and the arms makers.
Have you seen what we’ve already done to Mars? And, unlike Afghanistan, we went there to look for life not to kill it.
Closing the pipeline had absolutely nothing to do with todays diesel and gasoline prices, and subsequent inflation, an intellectual here told me that, can't remember which one. And I believed him!!!!
As well you should believe him. That pipeline construction extension wasn’t productive. It wasn’t carrying any oil. It was still under construction. It’s untightened nuts and bolts have not the slightest effect on today's fuel prices. What a dunce.

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Message 1040 of 1184 (895270)
06-19-2022 2:21 AM
Reply to: Message 1039 by marc9000
06-18-2022 11:11 PM


Re: Biden's speech
Your lying contention was that Biden stopped the flow of the Keystone pipeline. That was a fuckin' lie. Your lie was that his stopping Keystone caused the price increases. A fuckin lie. Stopping the extension had no effect either. Another fuckin' lie.
Now you're lying about the topic trying to cover up your lie.
Lies, lies, and more lies. Is that all a christian knows how to do? No wonder you guys are losing your ass in the public sphere.

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Message 1050 of 1184 (895349)
06-23-2022 5:07 AM
Reply to: Message 1049 by Tangle
06-23-2022 3:38 AM


Re: Where are all the good guys with guns?
Oh, I'm sure any good guys with guns would still wait until the shooter was done reloading a second time before risking their lives. This is America. Gotta be extra careful around a gun culture. It can get YOU killed instead of the bad guy.

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Message 1053 of 1184 (895373)
06-24-2022 12:14 AM
Reply to: Message 1052 by marc9000
06-23-2022 9:51 PM


Re: Our Well Regulated Militia
Now I see some liberal websites that say "Oh this is nothing new, the IRS has been heavily armed long before the Biden presidency." What's new for me, and I'm sure millions of others, is not knowing this because the mainstream media never reports it.
You really are that dense, aren't you.
You say the news media is at fault for not informing you? Yet, every open public budget plan for every federal agency includes arms and ammo for their internal security service.
Public hearings. That is where the interested person can find these things. And the media publishes such, openly, for anyone willing to dig through the minutiae of budget details on a federal agency.
This has been going on for centuries in security arms of every federal agency. That you did not know this is the fault of your own lack of sincerity on the issue. Your concern is fake. After centuries, now (in the last five minutes while writing your screed) security agency arms becomes a big concern for you to harp on and spew mud.
Wake up, marc9000! There is an entire society here you apparently neglect to see. The media is not responsible for your shotty and politically-skewed attention span.
Oh my. The Postal Police have guns ... and have had guns since the pony express.
You are such an idiot.

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