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vimesey
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Message 1006 of 1184 (895159)
06-09-2022 11:28 PM
Reply to: Message 1005 by marc9000
06-09-2022 8:04 PM


Re: Biden's speech
How about a big strong young man with a baseball bat or a crowbar? Who knows that the only people with a gun is a uniformed police officer, of which he knows there are none within miles. He enters a school - a blow to the head can kill just a s fast as a bullett. How many kids can he kill before he is stopped? If he traps them in a room they can't run. Then he can move on to other rooms, one by one.
And yet, over here, in the UK, where we don't allow people to walk around with guns, that didn't happen last week. Or last month. Or last year. Or the year before that. And so on.
You've pointed to a hypothetical. The evidence is to the contrary.

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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vimesey
Member (Idle past 101 days)
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From: Birmingham, England
Joined: 09-21-2011


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Message 1008 of 1184 (895161)
06-10-2022 4:12 AM
Reply to: Message 1007 by Tangle
06-10-2022 3:52 AM


Re: Biden's speech
And nobody arms their armies with them either (although in our case, we'd probably go with cricket bats rather than baseball bats if we did).

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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vimesey
Member (Idle past 101 days)
Posts: 1398
From: Birmingham, England
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Message 1020 of 1184 (895227)
06-16-2022 6:04 AM
Reply to: Message 1019 by xongsmith
06-16-2022 12:01 AM


Re: Biden's speech
I can guess what he'll say. It's the usual tactics of the wannabe fascists. They simply point to one of the fully evidenced arguments put forward by decent people, that refutes one of their lines of propaganda, and call it a conspiracy theory.
They know they can't refute the evidence, but they also know that as long as their audience is unwilling or unable to review and understand the evidence (which in general they are), they will agree it's a conspiracy theory.
The supporters of fascists will always swallow lies that paint them as superior to another section of society. Hence the wholesale swallowing of lies as risible as the children-eating Democrats. All our wannabe fascist will do is point to evidenced arguments and call them conspiracy theories. He won't convince us, but that's not his goal - his goal is to add to the sheer volume of lies that enable totalitarianism.

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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vimesey
Member (Idle past 101 days)
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From: Birmingham, England
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Message 1023 of 1184 (895230)
06-16-2022 6:49 AM
Reply to: Message 1022 by marc9000
06-16-2022 6:16 AM


Re: Biden's speech
I'd rather remind people what Primo Levi, a Nazi Holocaust survivor said, after his liberation from the Nazi death camps. It's written in very large letters just inside the entrance to the Holocaust memorial and museum in Berlin, and has stayed with me ever since I visited there.
We must be listened to: above and beyond our personal experience, we have collectively witnessed a fundamental unexpected event, fundamental precisely because unexpected, not foreseen by anyone. It happened, therefore it can happen again: this is the core of what we have to say. It can happen, and it can happen everywhere.

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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vimesey
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Posts: 1398
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Joined: 09-21-2011


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Message 1031 of 1184 (895243)
06-17-2022 1:23 AM
Reply to: Message 1027 by marc9000
06-16-2022 9:57 PM


Re: Biden's speech
That's EXACTLY what Christians have been asking the scientific community for 163 years.
Of course you have. It's so you can keep your followers ignorant, under your control and feeling that they are "special", so you can carry on lining your pockets from them.

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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vimesey
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Message 1083 of 1184 (895485)
07-03-2022 4:16 AM
Reply to: Message 1081 by marc9000
07-02-2022 9:04 PM


Re: Our Well Regulated Militia
As usual here, I'm facing a frantic gang, who pulls me in different directions, trying to shout down free speech.
So what you want is a world in which you get to exercise your free speech, but we can't.

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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