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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Percy writes:
The line between attack and counterattack is fuzzy. I would ask the question of whether the Luftwaffe was under British attack during the blitz?"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Theodoric writes:
I'd say the opposite - not responding decisively is the only option. It's what our governments do. Not responding decisively is not an option. "Support for Ukraine" is mostly lip-service. In the end, Ukraine is not as important to us as our own security. We won't do anything risky."I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Theodoric writes:
That's what they said in 1936 and 1938. We wound up facing the devil from 1939 to 1945 (that's 1941 to 1945 to you). Retired General Wesley Clark thinks we either face the devil now or face him later in a much worse situation. But there was another string of devils lined up behind him.
General Wesley Clark writes:
But it won't be. We know that, don't we? Strengthening Ukraine — giving it the tools it needs to secure its own territory — must be the first order of business for the United States and our NATO allies."I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Phat writes:
You're not supposed to be. You're supposed to be separate from "the world". Your faith in God is supposed to raise you above the weaknesses of us heathens. ringo writes:
This is why most Christians would never give it all up. We are as human as you and the rest of the governments. In the end, Ukraine is not as important to us as our own security. We won't do anything risky. Otherwise, what's the point of Christianity? Just saving your own skin from your own God's wrath? It's funny how you brag about your "changed life" when it suits you and also fall back on being "only human" when it suits you.
Phat writes:
You keep confusing me with Jesus. I just look like Him. I wasn't even born in a barn. Quit trying to preach us into a corner and expect us to do what you won't do. It was Jesus who told you to give everything up and follow Him. He didn't tell me because He doesn't exist."I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Percy writes:
I'm thinking that Putin's attack on Ukraine may be less like Hitler's attacks on Poland and France and more like Stalin's attack on Finland. I've been likening recent events to those leading up to WWII for a month now, including about the appeasers."I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Percy writes:
Hitler's aim was tangible: lebensraum. Putin's goal seems to be restoration of the glory of the Tsarist Empire. And his methodology is diminishing Russia's influence and respect.
They both seem like plays for more territory, influence, power and respect. Percy writes:
Putin claims the same thing. That may be a good thing, allowing him to pull back and save face by declaring "victory". Wasn't Stalin's main concern about Finland its potential use as an enemy base of operations?"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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AZPaul3 writes:
Our own media don't seem to have much of a clue what war is about either. They're constantly surprised that civilians are being killed. (And some of those civilians are women and children!) In a war? Really? And our Prime Minister, Trudeau Jr., calls it an "illegal war", as if Putin didn't get the proper permits."I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Omnivorous writes:
And yet his weapon of choice is poison, traditionally a woman's weapon. ... the GOP's morphing of Putin into a savior of traditional masculinity...."I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Omnivorous writes:
Ukraine is the sacrificial lamb that saves the rest of us. Declared U.S. goals in Ukraine include weakening the Russian military to inhibit future adventures. I expect that to succeed. There will be little left of Ukraine."I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
In your case it's more like the Silly Party and the Monster Raving Looney Party.
I meant its not as simple as the "good party" and the "bad party". Phat writes:
What about the sin of pride in thinking that you have your own private Sky-Buddy who will help you and nobody else? I'm particularly eager to see how He saves you from climate change and lets the rest of us fry. Part of the sin is the pride of getting ourselves out of it rather than asking for help."I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
You forget AGAIN that more people having more money means they are also paying more taxes - which means LESS taxes for you.
... the liberally progressive globalists want more people to have money.... Phat writes:
There was a limited nuclear exchange at the end of WW2. It didn't ruin everything. All im saying is that they seem to think a limited nuclear exchange is possible. It will ruin everything."I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
It was asymmetrical - like when I exchange spare change for peace of mind. First, it was no exchange. If Putin was to pop a couple of nukes in Ukraine and Biden didn't retaliate, it would be asymmetrical.
Phat writes:
Not particularly relevant. A limited exchange would not necessarily "ruin everything". Second, todays nukes are 10-100x more powerful."I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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AZPaul3 writes:
An iron curtain is descending around Putin. Putin has just been shown the finger ... wrapped in armor."I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
YahooNews writes
Can you get CBC news where you live? You should get your news from them instead of a bunch of yahoos."I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
AZPaul3 writes:
I don't watch anything but Canadian broadcast news. I think the BBC would be okay. Have you any comparisons to others? BBC World, PBS, BBC America, OAN?"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!" -- Lucky Ned Pepper
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