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jar Member (Idle past 163 days) Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Actually the largest margin in the history US Senate Impeachment Trial the Senate found Trump guilty. But under the rules of Impeachment Trials it was not sufficient for conviction. But this was the largest cross party vote to convict in all of US impeachment history.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 6191 Joined: Member Rating: 5.5 |
Several of those GOP senators who voted not guilty then went on to say that Trump very obviously and definitely is responsible for the insurrectionist attack on the Capitol. Eg, McConnell, "no question about it."
They know full well that he's guilty, but they chose to hide behind the cowardly lie that they didn't have jurisdiction because he's no longer in office. That lie was disproven on the very first day before the trial actually started.
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Percy Member Posts: 23179 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.7 |
All text messages from November 3, 2020 (election day) until January 20, 2021 (inauguration day) of former Trump Chief of Staff Mark Meadows have been obtained by CNN (Mark Meadows' 2,319 text messages reveal Trump's inner circle communications before and after January 6 | CNN Politics). They reveal how shocked everyone within the Trump circle was at the events of January 6th as they unfolded, from family, to cabinet members, to Republican congressmen, and to supporters and hangers on, in contrast to their later denial of the seriousness of what took place. They also reveal how hard they all worked to overturn the 2020 election.
The first texts reveal everyone assuming Trump was at the driving force for the January 6th insurrection. Here are some choice texts from the article:
There's also a trove of texts about overturning the election. They reveal a wide range of positions, from skepticism about conspiracy theories to full-blown buy-in to actively pushing both legal and violent remedies. A number of texts were about preparations for January 6th. --Percy PS: I'm changing the title of this thread from "The Trump Post Presidency" to "The Trump Post Presidency and Insurrection". If there are objections or there's a better thread for insurrection discussion please let me know. I'm making the change because I had trouble rememberinf the right thread for insurrection discussion. Edited by Percy, : No reason given.Edited by Percy, : Formatting and grammar. Edited by Percy, : Clarify.
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dwise1 Member Posts: 6191 Joined: Member Rating: 5.5
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To paraphrase the most famous line in Jaws: "We're going to need a bigger yardarm." To hang all these mutineers and traitors from.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined:
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I'm changing the title of this thread from "The Trump Post Presidency" to "The Trump Post Presidency and Insurrection". If there are objections or there's a better thread for insurrection discussion please let me know. A better title: "The Trump Treason and Insurrection".Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3978 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: |
Capitol Breach Cases
quote A LOT of names - Just the defendants with names starting with "A" total 18. Moose
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nwr Member Posts: 6490 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined:
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So far, so good. But we would like to see some charges against the instigators.
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Percy Member Posts: 23179 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.7 |
I believe I found a unique key to search on, and the count of defendants seems to be a little over five hundred (I got 541).
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined: |
By my count there were 256 insurrectionists in the US Congress and dozens more in the Whitehouse.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8712 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0
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The primary instigators and perpetrators for sure.
I’m thinking, though, there may not be enough political will in the present American electorate for this level of recrimination. I fear Trump and company will avoid the kind of legal repercussions that any other society would demand. More I fear the coming republican election victories. The right is rising. As we have recently seen in the Supreme Court, our liberties, whether directly expressed in the constitution or not, are in danger.Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined:
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When those fuckers get power again this country is going to become a very scary, unhappy, shithole to live in! I fear for my grandkids, but most for my granddaughter!
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8712 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0
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Proud Boys leader and top members charged with seditious conspiracy over January 6
So now a federal jury gets to decide what is protest vs sedition. The legal maneuvering and outside antics will be interesting to watch. They wouldn't plead out would they? They're supposed to be proud.Edited by AZPaul3, . Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! |
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8712 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0
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Republicans institutionalize political violence.
An interesting perspective on the violence of the republican right. Former Chief of Staff, Homeland Security, Miles Taylor. Starts about 1 min inStop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned!
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nwr Member Posts: 6490 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined:
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The Republican Party has become The Trump Crime Syndicate.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined:
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I think of it as the Trump Crime Cult.
Stop Tzar Vladimir the Condemned! What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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