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jar
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Message 601 of 895 (894463)
05-16-2022 9:41 PM
Reply to: Message 600 by Dredge
05-16-2022 9:20 PM


Re: Prayer For The Universe
As usual you are simply taking pieces parts out of context. Acts is just one compilation created to market the author or authors positions.
If you look at the body of inter office memos what is shown is independent churches.

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Message 602 of 895 (894464)
05-16-2022 11:17 PM
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05-16-2022 9:41 PM


Re: Prayer For The Universe
Fake history is fine for some, but it's not my cup of tea.

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Message 603 of 895 (894466)
05-17-2022 2:17 AM
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05-16-2022 11:17 PM


Re: Prayer For The Universe
Fake history is fine for some, but it's not my cup of tea.
I have never seen a more spectacular self-own.

Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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Message 604 of 895 (894471)
05-17-2022 9:46 AM
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05-16-2022 9:20 PM


Re: Prayer For The Universe
Acts is a fable. It is not corroborated by historical facts and evidence.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 605 of 895 (894474)
05-17-2022 10:20 AM
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05-17-2022 9:46 AM


Re: Prayer For The Universe
And all of the Epistles are inter-office memos. And Acts is not consistent and definitely contains mutually exclusive accounts; for example the two different accounts of Paul's conversion found in Acts.

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Percy
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Message 606 of 895 (894476)
05-17-2022 10:25 AM
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05-16-2022 11:17 PM


Re: Prayer For The Universe
Dredge writes:
Fake history is fine for some, but it's not my cup of tea.
You do realize that the accounts they're referring to that you're calling fake come from the Bible?
--Percy

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AZPaul3
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Message 607 of 895 (894477)
05-17-2022 11:17 AM
Reply to: Message 599 by Dredge
05-16-2022 6:05 PM


Re: Prayer For The Universe
Sorry, but you've got your wires crossed. Galatians 2:1-9 clearly demonstrates that, not only was Paul not the leader of the Church, but that he was under the authority of Peter and the apostles:
Do you really think your bible has any legitimacy at all? It doesn't.
You can make your bible say whatever you want it to say.
And I can do the same. Your bible shows quite clearly that Paul, not Peter, wrote out the instructions for the conduct of service and the philosophical underpinnings of his newly created religion. Yours is a Paulene church. Created in his image. Violent, hateful and pitifully inhumane. Catholic.

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Message 608 of 895 (894478)
05-17-2022 11:24 AM
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05-16-2022 11:17 PM


Re: Prayer For The Universe
But when your fake history is from your bible then you're all like taking 2 lumps instead of one with your tea and a cherry scone to go with it.
Your view of history is as a hypocrite.

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Message 609 of 895 (894480)
05-17-2022 12:25 PM
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05-17-2022 10:25 AM


Re: Prayer For The Universe
You do realize that the accounts they're referring to that you're calling fake come from the Bible?
Maybe he's finally coming over to the other side and becoming an atheist.
Unfortunately, his entire life he had been lied to about what atheism is, so we're going to have to weather through his making an ungodly mess of ... Ungodliness.
Christian atheists must be the worst kind of atheist because they have all the wrong ideas of how to do it.

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AZPaul3
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Message 610 of 895 (894583)
05-22-2022 9:24 AM


Proof!
Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal (SMBC) has provided these three logical proofs there is no god.
They each work equally well separately but combinations may be more effective against the hardened religionist.
Anyone who has ever argued with a religionist will recognise the impeccable logic.

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Message 611 of 895 (894719)
05-27-2022 11:28 AM
Reply to: Message 610 by AZPaul3
05-22-2022 9:24 AM


Re: Proof!
I don't see the humor.

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
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“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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Message 612 of 895 (894720)
05-27-2022 11:38 AM
Reply to: Message 607 by AZPaul3
05-17-2022 11:17 AM


Re: Prayer For The Universe
Scripture clearly shows that neither Paul nor Peter are the head of any church.
Of course you have this idea in your head that religion has always been hateful so I doubt the scripture will mean anything to you!
1 Cor 3:4-12 writes:
4 For when one says, "I am of Paul," and another, "I am of Apollos," are you not carnal?
5Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers through whom you believed, as the Lord gave to each one? 6 I planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the increase. 7 So then neither he who plants is anything, nor he who waters, but God who gives the increase. 8 Now he who plants and he who waters are one, and each one will receive his own reward according to his own labor.
9 For we are God's fellow workers; you are God's field, you are God's building. 10 According to the grace of God which was given to me, as a wise master builder I have laid the foundation, and another builds on it. But let each one take heed how he builds on it. 11 For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
NKJV
In other words, no human is in charge of the church except God's character, the Lord Jesus Christ. (sorry to burst any Catholic bubbles of human infallibility)

"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
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“…far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.”- Dr.John Lennox

“A God without wrath brought men without sin into a Kingdom without judgment through the ministrations of a Christ without a Cross.”
H. Richard Niebuhr, The Kingdom of God in America

“The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him.” — Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You
(1894).


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nwr
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Message 613 of 895 (894723)
05-27-2022 11:58 AM
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05-27-2022 11:28 AM


Re: Proof!
I don't see the humor.
It's a parody takedown of the bullshit arguments coming from apologetics.
Since you do not see those arguments as bullshit, the humor won't work for you.

Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity

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AZPaul3
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Message 614 of 895 (894743)
05-27-2022 7:35 PM
Reply to: Message 612 by Phat
05-27-2022 11:38 AM


Re: Prayer For The Universe
Scripture clearly shows that neither Paul nor Peter are the head of any church.
Why are you talking "head of the church"? No one mentioned anything like that.
What I said was that Paul wrote out the instructions for the conduct of service and the philosophical underpinnings of his newly created religion. And he did that by writing the majority of your new testament, 13 maybe 14 of the 27 books.
That's your bible, Phat. The paulene version of the jesus religion.

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Message 615 of 895 (894751)
05-28-2022 8:43 AM
Reply to: Message 614 by AZPaul3
05-27-2022 7:35 PM


Re: Prayer For The Universe
AZPaul3 writes:
That's your bible, Phat. The paulene version of the jesus religion.
Rewriting slightly, don't know if you'll agree: "That's your bible, Phat. The Paulene version of the Jesus religion myth."
--Percy

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