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PaulK
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Message 61 of 70 (892129)
02-26-2022 1:25 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by Jzyehoshua
02-25-2022 6:18 PM


Re: Biblically -Based Phylogeny
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I have a Biblically-based phylogeny here:
Baramin - BibleStrength
No, you don’t. That’s just an attempt at a taxonomy. A phylogeny is based on ancestry, it’s not just a system of classification.

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Message 62 of 70 (892151)
02-28-2022 10:51 AM
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02-11-2022 7:57 PM


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MrIntelligentDesign writes:
Have you ever watched the documentary of Sun Tzu, the Art of War in YouTube? Watch it and apply that to Evolution...
What I said was not about evolution per se. I said, "It's easy to "defeat" your enemy if you don't actually confront him." If you claim you can "defeat" evolution, you have to confront evolution where it is - i.e. you have to confront the actual Theory of Evolution, not a strawman that you've made up in your head.

"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!"
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Message 63 of 70 (892765)
03-13-2022 1:36 PM
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02-09-2022 4:47 PM


I explain it in my falsification article.
Evolution is falsified!
ALL ABOUT BIBLICAL KINDS (AronRa's Phylogeny Challenge Accepted) | Zenodo

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Message 64 of 70 (892767)
03-13-2022 1:38 PM
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02-25-2022 6:18 PM


Re: Biblically -Based Phylogeny
Well, that classification is very hard to learn. Try mine in the OP.
But, EVOLUTION IS FALSIFIED, too!
ALL ABOUT BIBLICAL KINDS (AronRa's Phylogeny Challenge Accepted) | Zenodo

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Message 65 of 70 (907191)
02-20-2023 6:44 AM
Reply to: Message 61 by PaulK
02-26-2022 1:25 PM


Re: Biblically -Based Phylogeny
You are using circular logic, as ancestry assumes evolution from common ancestor.

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PaulK
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Message 66 of 70 (907195)
02-20-2023 7:36 AM
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02-20-2023 6:44 AM


Re: Biblically -Based Phylogeny
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You are using circular logic, as ancestry assumes evolution from common ancestor.
Well that’s a dramatic failure of comprehension on your part. Pointing out that a phylogeny requires ancestry is a simple matter of definitions.

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Message 67 of 70 (907204)
02-20-2023 8:48 AM
Reply to: Message 65 by sensei
02-20-2023 6:44 AM


Re: Biblically -Based Phylogeny
I will add "circular logic" to the growing list of terms you do not understand. The list is getting quite impressive.
Maybe you should define the term as you understand it, so we can correct your misunderstanding.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 68 of 70 (907426)
02-23-2023 3:49 PM
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02-20-2023 6:44 AM


Re: Biblically -Based Phylogeny
sensei writes:
You are using circular logic, as ancestry assumes evolution from common ancestor.
Do you have to assume a suspect is guilty in order to get a match between the suspect's DNA and DNA at a crime scene?
We observe a phylogeny. That matches what we would expect from common ancestry. Because we get a match between expectation and observation, we conclude ancestry.

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Message 69 of 70 (907490)
02-24-2023 12:40 PM
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02-23-2023 3:49 PM


Re: Biblically -Based Phylogeny
Phylogeny, with phylos = race and geneia = origin.
Common ancestry is not required for phylogeny.

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Message 70 of 70 (907491)
02-24-2023 12:48 PM
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02-24-2023 12:40 PM


Re: Biblically -Based Phylogeny
sensei writes:
Common ancestry is not required for phylogeny.
Will common ancestry produce a nested hierarchy?
Is there any reason why we would expect to see a nested hierarchy if separate creation is true?

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