Hitler always planned to attack the Soviet Union. Stalin couldn’t have stayed out of it. The US propped up the Soviet Union (and others) through the Lend-Lease program - and that started before Pearl Harbour and US entry to the war.
Wikipedia discusses this and these quotes seem relevant:
I would like to express my candid opinion about Stalin's views on whether the Red Army and the Soviet Union could have coped with Nazi Germany and survived the war without aid from the United States and Britain. First, I would like to tell about some remarks Stalin made and repeated several times when we were "discussing freely" among ourselves. He stated bluntly that if the United States had not helped us, we would not have won the war.
— Nikita Khrushchev
Joseph Stalin, during the Tehran Conference during 1943, acknowledged publicly the importance of American efforts during a dinner at the conference: "Without American machines the United Nations could never have won the war
Today [1963] some say the Allies didn't really help us ... But listen, one cannot deny that the Americans shipped over to us material without which we could not have equipped our armies held in reserve or been able to continue the war
— Marshal Zhukov
I think that continued British resistance was also important. Without opposition from British and Commonwealth forces - and without any reason to invade Britain - more German forces would have been available for the Eastern Front.
The Soviet Union played their part in the war, but I think that they were more saved than saviours.
You use this faulty reasoning as justification for Tzar Vladimir the Condemned to invade a peaceful neighbor? This is your justification for the innocent blood the Russian is spilling in Ukraine? You are a sick individual. Psychopath.
I rather doubt that the Finns would have turned to fascist aid without the threat from the Soviet Union, which I remind you was a murderous oppressive tyranny. Finland itself wasn’t fascist.
quote:Would the west have won the war without Russia?
Possibly. It would have been harder.
quote:You are using Stalin's plans for Russian economic growth as evidence that the West helped him.
A complete and utter and knowing falsehood. I am using the fact that the Soviet Union relied on war aid from the US to survive. As admitted by Krushchev, Zhukov and apparently Stalin himself. Aid that started before the attack on Pearl Harbour brought the US formally into the war. It had nothing to do with Stalin’s plans - it was instituted by the US.
So LMA supports the invasion of Ukraine and the murder of its civilian population.
Is there any reason we're still talking to him?
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine.
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed. Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
I rather doubt that the Finns would have turned to fascist aid without the threat from the Soviet Union, which I remind you was a murderous oppressive tyranny. Finland itself wasn’t fascist.
quote:Finland participated in the Second World War initially in a defensive war against the Soviet Union, followed by another battle against the Soviet Union acting in concert with Germany and then finally fighting alongside the Allies against Germany.
quote:Defensive arrangements were attempted with Sweden and the United Kingdom, but the political and military situation in the context of the Second World War rendered these efforts fruitless. Finland then turned to Nazi Germany for military aid. As the German offensive against the Soviet Union (Operation Barbarossa) approached, the cooperation between the two countries intensified. German troops arrived in Finland and took up positions, mostly in Lapland, from where they would invade the Soviet Union. The Finnish military took part in the planning for Operation Barbarossa, and prepared to invade the Soviet Union alongside the Germans in the north, and independently in the south.
Well, I don't know about talking to him. It's more like correcting the poison he spews into the air. Can't let the Russkie have the last word.
Also, I'm hoping that by repeating - Tzar Vladimir The Condemned - often enough the algorithms will log the meme as "trending" and eventually take over the world leading to the overthrow of Tzar Vladimir The Condemned. I'm thinking big. This whole Ukraine bravado thing is catching on.
You can tell things aren't going well for Poo Tin - he's arrested Colonel-General Sergei Beseda the head of the FSB Intelligence service and his deputy.
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London. Olen Suomi Soy Barcelona. I am Ukraine.
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed. Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
There are four different ways to transliterate the letter "Ц". "Tzar" is one of four possible transliterations from Cyrillics, which Wikipedia.en gives as: "Tsar (/zɑːr, sɑːr/ or /tsɑːr/), also spelled czar, tzar, or csar".
Similarly, consider the Russian composer, Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky (Пётр Ильи́ч Чайко́вский). His last name starts with the letter, "Ч", whose sound is like the English "ch" as in "check" and the Spanish letter, "ch" as in "chalupa" (yes, Spanish dictionaries treat it as a single letter). And Italian also has the sound which is a "soft c" followed by and "e" or "i" (eg, "ciao!").
Other languages might not have that sound and so need to find some other way to write it. Like the "Ц", the "Ч (our "ch" sound) is an affricate, the combination of two different consonant sounds (slightly basdardized): eg, "Ц" = /ts/, "Ч" = /tŠ/ (Š is like our "sh" sound). Hence languages like French and German have to write it as a combination of two letters, namely "t" combined with their way of writing our "sh" sound: eg, French "ch" -> "tch", German "sch" -> "tsch".
Therefore "Чайко́вский" gets transliterated as:
in French -- "Tchaikovski" or "Tchaïkovsky"
in German -- "Tschaikowsky" or "Tschaikowski"
in Italian -- "Čajkovskij", but also "Ciajkovskij", "Ciaikovski", or the French "Tchaikovsky".
in Spanish -- "Chaikovski"
in English -- "Chaikovski", but we frequently use the French.
Added to the problems of transliteration we have our off-the-wall English "phonetic spellings" which only serve to confuse language students (especially due to English vowels being radically different from everybody elses'). Therefore, I always prefer to refer back to the original for pronunciation.
Just for fun, consider the English "j" (eg, "jungle"). In English it's also an affricate (/dž/, a voiced "ch"--/tš/), but in French it's a pure sound (/&zcaron/). So the German word for "jungle" is written "Dschungel"; the French just discard the "d" sound and change it to a pure /ž/, hence "jungle".
3 facebook post and 4 tweets so far with #TzarVladimirtheCondemned
quote:I said fifty people a day walking in singin' a bar of Alice's Restaurant and walking out. And friends they may thinks it's a movement.
And that's what it is, the Alice's Restaurant Anti-Massacree Movement, and all you got to do to join is sing it the next time it come's around on the guitar.
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Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
Somewhere this last week I saw a comment or headline, or something that mentioned #TzarVladimirtheCondemned having syphilis or doctors suspecting he has it by analyzing recent videos. I can't find it now.
Has anyone else seen this about #TzarVladimirtheCondemned or is it maybe just disinformation?
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