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dwise1
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Message 106 of 1197 (891718)
02-09-2022 10:30 PM


What do the Reviews of MrID's Book Say?
MrID, AKA Edgar Postrado, has published a Kindle version ($0.00) on amazon.com, The New Intelligent Design, Turning The Scientific World Upside Down. Reading his own forward and the reviews of his work are very telling.
First, in his Message 89 WookieeB pondered whether English is not MrID's native language. MrID is from the Philippines and one reviewer says that English is his third language. However, years of experience on a programming forum visited by many non-native speakers has taught me that non-native speakers' English is far superior to native speakers' with the only problems being the occasional slightly odd word order and word choice (eg, in asking about how to use semaphores, a Portuguese programmer's dictionary wrote "lights" (as in traffic lights) because that's what his dictionary told him. Rather, MrID's immersion-blended English is not due to problems with English, but rather to his state of profound mental confusion.
The first paragraph from MrID's "editorial review" reads:
quote:
I do not have time right now to make additional info for this science book. For your convenience, I should be writing a SECOND EDITION for this science book about "intelligence" and about "Intelligent Design". WHY should I need to make a revised SECOND EDITION of this science book? Just to help you understand the new science from my new discoveries and to lower my intellectual understanding of reality in accordance with your level. I hope I could so that when someone asked you about the topic of "intelligence", you will not become a stupid person who will be giving that person the wrong answer. The right answer MUST always come from this science book..or you cannot answer that topic.
And his "From the author" has him comparing himself to Albert Einstein. 'Nuff said, but you can read it yourself if you're feeling masochistic.
Here are the six reviews, 5 of them one-star (the lowest rating possible) that say a lot and one a 5-star that says almost nothing.
First the 5-star review, the first one posted so it smells like a shill to me:
quote:
5.0 out of 5 stars God's Fringerprints
Reviewed in the United States on April 19, 2015
Great book with undeniable science. Easy to read even for laymen!
Now the one-stars:
quote:
1.0 out of 5 stars Almost incomprehensible, written by a semi-literate buffoon
Reviewed in the United States on May 8, 2015
Although the author tortures the English language, he unfortunately does not force it to reveal anything.
"Have you think about these before opening the book?"
Such was one of the sentences in the very first paragraph of this book, and it's a fairly accurate indicator of what's to come.
Postrado continues that proud creationist tradition of putting forth his arguments, completely ignoring the highly critical responses and refutations and then declaring his arguments unbeaten.
The grammar in this book is terrible, with syntax so distorted that it would make anybody with a decent grip on the language cringe, such as labelling Michael J Behe "one proponents of Intelligent Design".
The arguments are even worse, such as "if intelligence is dead, it will force us to predict that since human could produce PC, a stone could produce a PC too, since the two will just be using the same "natural processes", as the obvious pattern in/of nature." Just a few pages in and I have already run out of fingers with which to count the grammatical errors.
"for four years span, I did not stop thinking about the topic of 'intelligence' for almost every day"
"This was the story of my quest of the discovery of intelligence that will surely turn the scientific world upside down."
Postrado refers to information found online as "in the internet".
He also spends pages and pages devoted to different definitions of 'intelligence' that he copied from the dictionary or various textbooks, presumably to pad it out a bit more. How many definitions he uses I can't rightly tell you, as I gave up counting after 67.
The grammar and logic presented in this book wouldn't be acceptable in primary school, and at some points it gets so that you can barely comprehend what he is saying, so how he expects to 'turn the scientific world upside down' is simply beyond me. To be fair, English is Postrado's third language, but the fact that he didn't hire an editor/proof-reader (or couldn't find one) is very telling.
quote:
1.0 out of 5 stars Nonsensical
Reviewed in the United States on May 23, 2020
Incoherent, unintelligible, inarticulate, incomprehensible, disjointed, muddled nonsense from a confused, foolish, egotistical, pretentious mind.
quote:
1.0 out of 5 stars Edgar Postrado is Not Even Wrong
Reviewed in the United States on February 10, 2017
Edgar cannot even understand that position he's attempting to oppose. He reliably strawmans the work of Charles Darwin, modern understandings of the Theory of Evolution, and even the position of the Intelligent Design proponents.
He has no concept of how to perform a scientific experiment, formulate a hypothesis, or analyze the results. Full stop.
quote:
1.0 out of 5 stars Makes the old ID sound sciency
Reviewed in the United States on February 2, 2022
Inconceivably incoherent, and has nothing to do with science...just dressed up bad philosophy with the word 'science' like someone is name dropping. Certainly he's no C.S. Lewis...
quote:
1.0 out of 5 stars ... care to call it that) will leave you less intelligent than when you started
Reviewed in the United States on May 13, 2015
Reading this "book"(if you care to call it that) will leave you less intelligent than when you started. This should be sold along side toilet paper, since they serve the same purpose.
Actually, it cannot even serve the same purpose as toilet paper since it's a Kindle file. Hence even more useless.

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Message 107 of 1197 (891725)
02-10-2022 3:46 AM
Reply to: Message 106 by dwise1
02-09-2022 10:30 PM


Re: What do the Reviews of MrID's Book Say?
Thank you for your comments.
To tell you the truth, I do not even care of my book reviews or my critics. What I care so much is if I am right or wrong in science, ... science, and not religion.
I think that I am right. I think I nailed it. That is why I am the only scientist who is challenging anyone to fight me scientifically...
The New Intelligent Design <id> and Its Powerful Correct Scientific Explanations. | Zenodo

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Message 108 of 1197 (891726)
02-10-2022 3:55 AM
Reply to: Message 107 by MrIntelligentDesign
02-10-2022 3:46 AM


Re: What do the Reviews of MrID's Book Say?
You aren’t a scientist and you aren’t doing science.
Seek psychiatric help. Please. For your own sake.

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Message 109 of 1197 (891747)
02-10-2022 12:22 PM
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02-10-2022 3:46 AM


Re: What do the Reviews of MrID's Book Say?
MrID writes:
What I care so much is if I am right or wrong in science
Fist step: learn the basics of phylogenetics.
I think that I am right. I think I nailed it.
Why would you think that if you don't even understand the most basic concepts in biology?

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Message 110 of 1197 (891751)
02-10-2022 1:33 PM
Reply to: Message 107 by MrIntelligentDesign
02-10-2022 3:46 AM


Re: What do the Reviews of MrID's Book Say?
I do not even care of my book reviews or my critics.
If you're a scientist then you would care deeply. Peers are the only ones who can tell you if you are a real scientist doing real science or not.
What I care so much is if I am right or wrong in science,
Then you have to present, to share, to show how your process works.
Your peers are telling you that you are not doing science, have not done science. If you want to be a scientist you must prove yourself and your process to your peers. You have not done so.

Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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dwise1
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Message 111 of 1197 (891760)
02-10-2022 4:50 PM
Reply to: Message 107 by MrIntelligentDesign
02-10-2022 3:46 AM


Re: What do the Reviews of MrID's Book Say?
I do not even care of my book reviews or my critics.
Of course you do not care, because you hate and must avoid reality at all costs.
What those reviews reveal is that everybody who actually tries to read your crap arrives at the same evaluation of it: that it is nothing but crap, bullshit, bovine excrement, bat guano, nonsense. So it's not just your reception in this forum, but rather your reception everywhere.
It does not matter one whit that you think it is perfect if everybody else recognizes it as nonsense. As our Lindy Hop teacher once advised us about rotating partners in group class:
quote:
"As you rotate you will have problems with some partners and not with others, so be patient with a bad partner knowing that you will soon rotate to a good partner. However, if you have problems with everybody, then you are the problem!"
MrID, you have a problem with everybody who has ever attempted to read your ... crap. Let's face it, you are the problem, not the rest of the world. Please do something about it.
 
Why are you here? What is your objective? What are you trying to accomplish? What are you doing that supports your objective? How is that working for you (ie, are you succeeding or failing and why?)?
If your objective is to be a stupid troll and to thoroughly discredit both yourself and the ideas which you appear to state that you promote (ie, "intelligent design"), then you have been very successful in trolling and discrediting ID.
If instead your objective is to convince us of your "new ID", then you are failing miserably, abysmally even.
In order to succeed in convincing us of your "new ID" (or at the very least to understand it), you need to present your description of it and case for it clearly and intelligibly (meaning that we must be able to make sense of what you write). In other words, YOU MUST BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE! It does not matter one whit how absolutely brilliant you believe yourself to be; if you cannot communicate your "brilliant knowledge" to us then that makes you nothing more than a gibbering idiot. Which is exactly what everybody who encounters you thinks you to be, because that is all you have demonstrated yourself to be. Stop it already!
I do not even care of my book reviews or my critics.
Then by saying that, the second stupidest thing you have ever said, you prove yourself to be a much bigger idiot than we thought you to be. Your critics are telling you what you are doing wrong, so by ignoring them that means that you can never learn anything.
When you were learning arithmetic, whenever you performed a calculation incorrectly your teacher told you that you had gotten the problem wrong. That was the only way you had to know that you had gotten the wrong answer and that you needed to make corrections in order to learn how to get it right. If you had ignored your teacher every time he corrected your arithmetic mistakes, then you would have never learned arithmetic. Instead you would strut about (like a gallo cantando) full of absolutely empty pride over being infinitely superior to everybody else in arithmetic while at the same time being completely incapable of performing any arithmetic calculation. That is your current condition with regard to science ... and reality ... and everything else.
 
You need to learn how to write. One good approach would be for you to employ some proofreaders (which was suggested by one of the reviews, which is further evidence of what a total f*cking idiot you are for ignoring him). Present your "article" to your proofreaders and listen to their critiques of it. I've told you this before in Message 99:
DWise1 writes:
Team up with friends and associates and use them to proofread your stuff. And listen to them! If they cannot understand what you're trying to say, then they will tell you that and they will tell you why. Using that feedback, you might be able to learn how to write. Continue on your current path and you will remain incomprehensible.
So if you want to learn how to educate or convince someone, then team up with someone who will then tell you whether it worked (and far more importantly why it failed). That is why you need to work with proofreaders.
Of course, we already know that you are far too much of a f*cking idiot to do what you need to. But you could always give us a pleasant surprise.
 
As the great American philosopher, Gomer Pyle (USMC), often said:
quote:
Fool me once, shame on you! Fool me twice, shame on me!
Give up with your stupid links. We fell for that once and you have taught us far too well.
Edited by dwise1, : Added qs at the beginning

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Message 112 of 1197 (891761)
02-10-2022 6:42 PM
Reply to: Message 107 by MrIntelligentDesign
02-10-2022 3:46 AM


Re: What do the Reviews of MrID's Book Say?
I think that I am right. I think I nailed it. That is why I am the only scientist who is challenging anyone to fight me scientifically...
You are trying to convince a bunch of science nerds that you are a scientist, Dimwit. We can all see that you are a pathetic fraud!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 113 of 1197 (891763)
02-10-2022 7:32 PM
Reply to: Message 109 by Taq
02-10-2022 12:22 PM


Re: What do the Reviews of MrID's Book Say?
I understand fully. I think supporters of ToE do not understand Biology.

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Message 114 of 1197 (891765)
02-10-2022 7:41 PM
Reply to: Message 111 by dwise1
02-10-2022 4:50 PM


Re: What do the Reviews of MrID's Book Say?
You never get it. Those reviewers are not scientists!. A real scientist will surely read the discoveries, understand them, and rebut or agree. I am a very strong critic of Evolution, thus, but I did not give bad reviews to all ToE books. But I will be submitting my new article in science journals this month or early next month titled "Scientific Falsification of ToE and Introducing ToE's Replacement"...
I have many FREE science articles in Zenodo!
That is how you fight, not bad reviews!
Peers? I am discoverer in science. They are only a simple and normal scientist! The level is not the same intellectually! I'm higher, they are not!
My writings are not bad. Of course, some of my grammars are probably wrong but GRAMMARS could be fixed, but bad science like ToE could not!
Take the hint!

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Message 115 of 1197 (891766)
02-10-2022 7:43 PM
Reply to: Message 112 by Tanypteryx
02-10-2022 6:42 PM


Re: What do the Reviews of MrID's Book Say?
Just tell them to read my science article, put up or shut up!

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Message 116 of 1197 (891767)
02-10-2022 7:44 PM
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02-10-2022 7:41 PM


Re: What do the Reviews of MrID's Book Say?
You tell 'em Einstein.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 117 of 1197 (891769)
02-10-2022 7:48 PM
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02-10-2022 7:41 PM


Re: What do the Reviews of MrID's Book Say?
A real scientist will surely read the discoveries, understand them, and rebut or agree.
There are real scientists here at evcforum, waiting to read you discoveries. But you never tell us what those discoveries are. This is why people have the impression that you don't actually have any discoveries.

Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity

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Message 118 of 1197 (891775)
02-10-2022 8:27 PM
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02-10-2022 7:43 PM


Re: What do the Reviews of MrID's Book Say?
Just tell them to read my science article, put up or shut up!
You don't have any science articles. We would know, because we're science nerds and you are not!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 119 of 1197 (891776)
02-10-2022 8:29 PM
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02-10-2022 7:41 PM


Re: What do the Reviews of MrID's Book Say?
But I will be submitting my new article in science journals this month or early next month titled "Scientific Falsification of ToE and Introducing ToE's Replacement"...
I bet you don't!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 120 of 1197 (891777)
02-10-2022 8:38 PM
Reply to: Message 113 by MrIntelligentDesign
02-10-2022 7:32 PM


Re: What do the Reviews of MrID's Book Say?
I understand fully. I think supporters of ToE do not understand Biology.
Oh good! Can you please explain ERV insertions in genomes and how they can be used to create phylogenies?

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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