Belief Versus The Scientific Method

Not a doctor, just can't spell drove.

Your message is disorganized, but rather than impose my own order on it I'll just respond to things in the same order you say them. It has plenty of scientific support. In fact, it's fundamental to the way vaccines work, which I assumed was common knowledge, but apparently not for you. You're so resistant to knowledge that I won't waste my time providing the details of how traditional vaccines work. If you ever feel inclined to learn about it you can look it up in Wikipedia or any of the many medical websites. But this is the opposite of what you claimed, in two ways. You made no claims about the long term effects of vaccines. You claimed vaccines are putting people in hospitals and killing them in the near term, shortly after they're taken.You also didn't claim the effects are unknown. You claimed they caused people to become ill with covid-19, that more people catch covid-19 if they're vaccinated than if they're unvaccinated.But If you learn about mRNA vaccines then you'll understand how the vaccines couldn't possibly cause covid-19. I explained this already. If you don't accept my explanation then discuss it with me, but don't pretend this hasn't already been explained.If you can't support what you say, to such a large degree that you have to claim you said something else, could I suggest not saying it in the first place? We do know the cause of almost all covid-19 related deaths. There is no large collection of mysterious deaths out there. Yes, something else, but no, not unrelated. I explained this earlier. Almost everyone who dies due to a covid-19 infection dies of something else, the most common being pneumonia. There's the occasional allergic reaction and a small collection of fairly rare other kinds of reactions, but extremely few people are made sick by vaccines. If many people were becoming sick from the vaccines it would be readily apparent in urgent care facilities and emergency rooms all across the country as people show up there with mysterious illnesses within a few days of getting the vaccine. Dr. Malone seems to have lost his way and been promoting "misinformation about the safety and efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines." (Robert W. Malone - Wikipedia). WND seems to be active in promoting his quackery. If you think Dr. Malone has any science-based claims you're welcome to describe them for us here. This is the writing style of a polemicist. Not sure why you referred to "'my' science." You don't seem to know any science. There aren't multiple scientific perspectives on the virus and the vaccines. Well, yes, those who actually know and understand science believe that it is the best way of understanding the world around us, while the conspiracy theorists at WND and InfoWars make up false claims and lie that they are backed by science. The conspiracy theorists are self-evidently wrong. Their skills lie in the areas of lying, misrepresentation and persuasion, not just about science but of everything (e.g., January 6th was a false flag operation perpetrated by the FBI). Those who understand science and have good bullshit detectors are not easily taken in by the liars at WND and InfoWars. Science *is* clear, but you're not looking at science. You're looking at WND and InfoWars. Like I said, they really have your number. Because you don't understand science, misinformation goes right from their webpages into your brain, rotting it out from the inside. The better question, especially because you're not making sense and cannot back up anything you say, is why believe you? I've been doing that right along. Just in my previous message I provided this image from Alex Berenson's report that he took from COVID-19 Alberta statistics | alberta.ca: He thought that this shows that vaccination causes many hospitalizations a short while later, in some cases the same day. But what the graph instead shows is the effectiveness of vaccines and how after about two weeks they initiate a significant decline in the possibility of hospitalization.I'm still concerned that you dropped your argument about mask ineffectiveness. We're all still hanging on the edge of our seats hoping you provide the studies that show they're ineffective so that we can all stop wearing them.We're also hoping you provide the studies that show the vaccines dangerous so we can stop taking them, too.--Percy

Are you aware that SARS-CoV-2 is an RNA virus? It has an RNA genome wrapped in a fatty membrane covered in proteins that stick to your cells. Once attached, the virus injects its RNA genome into your cells where the RNA is made into proteins. The RNA genome is about 30,000 bases long, and it produces proteins that copy RNA into new RNA geneoms and proteins that coat the new viral particle when it detaches from the infected cell. The S gene is just one gene among many in the viral RNA genome, and it is one of the proteins that is on the outside of the viral particle. It is responsible for sticking to your cells and starting the infection.During infection, your cells are making new viral RNA for days to weeks. Tons of it. It is also producing viral particles coated with the spike protein which your immune system recognizes and tries to attack, producing antibodies in the process.The vaccine is just the RNA S gene. It only produces the spike protein. It has no ability to make new viral RNA genomes, nor does it have the ability produce any other protein such as the RNA dependent RNA polymerase that is used to copy RNA into new RNA. The RNA from the vaccine is only in your cells for a day or so, and probably shorter than that because it breaks down quickly. The vaccine can not produce infections with the full viral genome because the full viral genome is never present. The vaccine is entirely incapable of causing an infection. Period.So please tell us why the vaccine is so much worse than the infection. Why is a relatively small amount of RNA for the S gene so much more dangerous than tons of RNA for the entire viral genome that you are exposed to for days to weeks longer than the RNA from the vaccine? If the vaccine is causing any deleterious reactions the virus will be much worse just by their very nature. It is clear as day. Study after study has shown that the unvaccinated are being hospitalized at 5 to 10x the rate as the vaccinated. The basic biology and immunology supports taking the vaccine. You have to deny decades of scientific research to think otherwise.Edited by Taq, : No reason given.