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Author Topic:   Belief Versus The Scientific Method
AZPaul3
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Message 431 of 513 (891008)
01-13-2022 12:52 PM
Reply to: Message 423 by drlove
01-12-2022 10:17 PM


Re: making it up as they go along
Whatever protocols are usual in any class of study are not required for all such studies. The protocol design is dependant on study requirements, funding, etc. Each such element varies study to study.
If you want to wait to see what we end up developing after a 10-year development period then feel free to wait. You know this covid thing is going to go on for decades. This is far from over. In the mean time, while you obfuscate, lie and throw bombs, the rest of the real world has a population to save.
Even with all that is available on the subject you have an ignorant and dysfunctional idea of what science is and how it works.
Of course, now that you have that errant view I can see where you lack the intellectual ability to learn the reality and change.

Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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AZPaul3
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Message 441 of 513 (891034)
01-13-2022 10:19 PM
Reply to: Message 436 by drlove
01-13-2022 4:19 PM


Way to go trying to obfuscate the point.
And, besides your lies, the Aussies have their own house in order.
https://www.news.com.au/.../8f95d482648af8a5d8c4c8a3e614052d

Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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AZPaul3
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Message 446 of 513 (891040)
01-14-2022 6:51 AM
Reply to: Message 443 by drlove
01-14-2022 1:28 AM


Below are a few of the doctors saying that lockdowns are the wrong way to go.
No one seems to care.
Your declaration has been out more than a year and has not influenced the global or national discussions at all.
They join 916,000 others in that opinion...
You want to say these are all knowledgeable scientists in immunology?
Fact is 800,000 of these signatures are from the general public, not scientists. And of the remainder very few have any background in infectious disease let alone biology in general.
quote:
contains numerous clearly-fake names, including "Mr Banana Rama", "Dr Johnny Bananas", "Dr Johnny Fartpants", "Dr Person Fakename", "Harold Shipman", "Professor Notaf Uckingclue", and "Prof Cominic Dummings".[38][39][40] More than 100 psychotherapists, numerous homeopaths, physiotherapists, massage therapists, and other non-relevant people were found to be signatories ...
Wiki
Your Great Barrington Declaration and Petition is known farce. Another lie from the forked tongue of right-wing devils trying to burn society.
Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

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AZPaul3
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Message 481 of 513 (891328)
01-25-2022 4:06 PM


Any Redeeming Value?
We’ve seen drlove’s sources from WingNutDaily and other such politically-centered propaganda rags. All misinformation and lies. We’ve seen Percy and others dig into his cited studies only to find they didn’t exist or said quite the opposite of how he presented them.
Just a curiosity … Has drlove cited any actual scientific fact at all in any of his information? A significant fact that actually has merit and meant something? Can anyone spot one?
Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

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AZPaul3
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Message 484 of 513 (891333)
01-25-2022 7:56 PM
Reply to: Message 483 by Percy
01-25-2022 5:25 PM


Re: Any Redeeming Value?
to an extent that calls into question the possibility of productive discussion
I'm seeing no attempt at discussion. I'm thinking he didn't come in here for a discussion but to force more wedges into our social divides and rub more salt in our open wounds.
He's said some true stuff.
Sounds familiar. Something about blind nazis stumbling over acorns or something.

Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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AZPaul3
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Message 491 of 513 (891353)
01-26-2022 3:56 PM
Reply to: Message 490 by Tanypteryx
01-26-2022 2:19 PM


Re: Any Redeeming Value?
That was a period where a lot of science evolved from astrology, alchemy and biology to astronomy, chemistry and medicine.
A flowering of intellect in the desert of religion. And it wasn't the religion that was tolerant but the strongmen, the warlords. When the religion re-gained its full influence the tolerance stopped.
Such a waste. Secular enlightenment could have exploded onto the scene from here rather than waiting another 500 years for it to explode in Europe.
400 years of secular science has brought us to the moon. Imagine where we could have been with 900.

Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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AZPaul3
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Message 503 of 513 (891365)
01-26-2022 8:45 PM
Reply to: Message 496 by drlove
01-26-2022 6:45 PM


Re: Any Redeeming Value?
It also brought a weaponized space and soon a weaponized moon probably also.
And when our forces are clearly in control the treatment of christians in the Colosseum will look tame by comparison.
I could say the same about CNN and mainstream media
And your bible.

Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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