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jar Member Posts: 33957 From: Texas!! Joined: Member Rating: 2.1
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Well, I tried.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 3435 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.2 |
Well, at least you're not an a hole.
![]() What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tangle Member Posts: 8579 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 2.9 |
That seems unlikely given that I'm an atheist.
I had to look up what you'd were so offended by. I inferred you were a deist with added woo! Truth often offends I suppose. But seriously, you don't believe in Christianity but you keep quoting the bible at us. You must find that hilarious. I know I do. Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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Greatest I am Member Posts: 1538 Joined: |
The stupid are easily amused.
Especially stupid a hole atheists who do not know much about religions. Regards
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Tangle Member Posts: 8579 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 2.9
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You do know that you can write 'arse' if that's what you mean? A hole atheist seems a bit daft - I live in a very conventional house.
Being baptised a Christian and subject to Christian indoctrination until my teens, I suspect I know at least as much as you about Christianity. As for your bizarre form of it I admit to being more than a little bemused about. Christianity without god is like discovering a turd that didn't originate from an arse - rather difficult to place. You could have tried to explain your religion/belief/tradition without alienating the entire board but that's your choice I guess. Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 3435 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 4.2 |
How polite of you to notice.
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Stile Member Posts: 4083 From: Ontario, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 4.6
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I also think this is important. Not judgement by GOD - that's your faith. I simply do not wait for that judgement to come from GOD after I die. I want to fit into my environment. That being said, I highly value the judgements from all other members of my social community or "tribe" or "any and all people that my actions affect." Positive judgements affect my behaviour along a path to repeat or enhance such actions in order to repeat or enhance such judgements. I think the idea we share on "behaviour is affected by our beliefs/experiences and being-held-accountable-for-our-actions is an important aspect" is very similar. I also don't think it matters that I am 'held accountable' immediately, and you're 'held accountable' when you die. I think what matters is treating others nicely.
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Stile Member Posts: 4083 From: Ontario, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 4.6 |
And I would counter that people are different. Being extremely rational and looking for evidence on everything can be... bland. I see 3 basic levels of intelligence: 1. Ability to learn based on self-experience. 2. Ability to learn based on other's-experience or manipulation of self-experience. 3. Ability to learn based on imagination. If what I state above has any connection to reality... how could a genius imagine something not based on their previous experience at all... therefore not based on evidence at all? Pure genius REQUIRES the ability to have unevidenced, irrational ideas and then make judgements calls to see if they actually can fit into reality and are evidenced and logical. I will happily admit that such circumstances for when unevidenced, irrational ideas should be used will be extremely rare and only handled by those who can make proper evidenced/rational judgement calls in applying them to the reality we all share.... But to say such things are problematic if they "enter the human mind at all" is just... well... shutting off one of the most amazing parts of being human that's available to us. As I was saying, people are different. To think that because "evidence and rational ideas" lead to many, many good things... therefore "evidence and rational ideas" are the only path to good things, and everyone should only ever follow that path.... to me is just as bad as religious people saying we should all/only follow their ideas. It's a box. May very well be "better" than some other forms of oppression. But there are still better ways beyond that.
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jar Member Posts: 33957 From: Texas!! Joined: Member Rating: 2.1 |
I very much agree with the idea of self-retrospection and in fact it is a significant duty in all three of the Abrahamic/Masoretic religions. In Christianity specifically it is the Rite of Confession where you are charged to honestly evaluate your behavior, acknowledge your failures, attempt to amend any harm caused and honestly consciously try not to repeat those errors. Judgement is not only after you die but should be an ongoing repetitive part of daily life. My Website: My Website
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