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A less bizarre discussion of religious beliefs.

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Tangle
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Message 4 of 54 (890282)
12-31-2021 11:28 AM 		Reply to: Message 3 by jar
12-31-2021 10:59 AM

Re: a few preliminaries
Jar writes:
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First, that I believe that there is a god and that after I die, I will be judged.
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Is the result of this judgement binary - heaven or hell for all eternity?
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Second, that my beliefs will have had some impacts on my behavior over time.
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It would be strange if they didn't.
Do you attend church every week, pray, get involved in community stuff?
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12-31-2021 2:38 PM 		Reply to: Message 7 by jar
12-31-2021 1:24 PM

Re: a few preliminaries
Jar writes:
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I have absolutely no idea.
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Judgement does suggest some kind of reward or punishment though doesn't it? Somebody is deciding something?
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Jar writes:
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I do pray quite often
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Is this the usual oneway conversation?
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"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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12-31-2021 6:34 PM 		Reply to: Message 13 by jar
12-31-2021 5:48 PM

"My point is that beliefs, even those that are totally unevidenced, irrational, illogical and absurd such as belief in the supernatural are only problematic if they contribute to counter-productive and harmful behavior."
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Discuss in no more than 3,000 words
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"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Message 27 of 54 (890331)
01-01-2022 1:35 PM 		Reply to: Message 25 by AZPaul3
01-01-2022 1:02 PM

Re: On nurture from a personal perspective.
AZP writes:
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He is a humanist already.
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He's nearer a Deist I think. A bit like Percy but with added Christian woo, like the weird Greatest I am.
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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01-06-2022 4:04 PM 		Reply to: Message 44 by Greatest I am
01-06-2022 2:25 PM

Re: On nurture from a personal perspective.
GIA writes:
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Tangle
A holes like you try to put the supernatural woo where there is none.
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That seems unlikely given that I'm an atheist.
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A holes insult others without purpose, except to show that are a holes who have no clue about what they are talking about.
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I had to look up what you'd were so offended by. I inferred you were a deist with added woo! Truth often offends I suppose.
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But seriously, you don't believe in Christianity but you keep quoting the bible at us. You must find that hilarious. I know I do.
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Message 50 of 54 (890498)
01-06-2022 5:18 PM 		Reply to: Message 49 by Greatest I am
01-06-2022 4:57 PM

Re: On nurture from a personal perspective.
GIA writes:
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Especially stupid a hole atheists who do not know much about religions.
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You do know that you can write 'arse' if that's what you mean? A hole atheist seems a bit daft - I live in a very conventional house.
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who do not know much about religions.
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Being baptised a Christian and subject to Christian indoctrination until my teens, I suspect I know at least as much as you about Christianity. As for your bizarre form of it I admit to being more than a little bemused about.
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Christianity without god is like discovering a turd that didn't originate from an arse - rather difficult to place.
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You could have tried to explain your religion/belief/tradition without alienating the entire board but that's your choice I guess.
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona

"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android

"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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