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ringo
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Message 82 of 99 (886088)
05-05-2021 11:20 AM 		Reply to: Message 72 by Phat
05-05-2021 8:25 AM

Re: Bias is unavoidable?
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jar writes:
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There is nothing in science that is atheistic.
True, but there appears to be nothing theistic either.
Same with the phone book. There are some things where theism just isn't applicable.
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I know (as does everyone else) that your arguments are designed to expose and demonize CCoI believers. Which is biased.
The methodology is not biased.
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On some level, we are biased against murderers, robbers, liars, etc. but the methodology we use to catch them is not inherently biased.
"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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ringo
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Message 84 of 99 (886090)
05-05-2021 11:29 AM 		Reply to: Message 75 by Phat
05-05-2021 8:35 AM

Re: The God Authoritarian Delusion Debate
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PaulK writes:
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... there aren’t any Marxists here, for instance.
Ringo is darn close!
Learn what Marxism is. Marx was concerned about class struggle and so are you. I am not.
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Phat writes:
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Yet he cloaks it with "what Jesus said to do."
Jesus said what he said.
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Phat writes:
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This whole idea that the world should be some secular Kum Ba Yah brother and sisterhood is never gonna fly on my watch!
Well, Jesus did preach brother and sisterhood - and yes, we know you're against what Jesus said.
"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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ringo
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Message 85 of 99 (886091)
05-05-2021 11:40 AM 		Reply to: Message 78 by Phat
05-05-2021 8:51 AM

Re: The God Authoritarian Delusion Debate
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ringo himself has mentioned being quite far to the left ideologically.
I have also mentioned that ideologies are for lazy thinkers. In some ways I am more conservative than you.
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Marxism is an outdated concept.
Maybe so.
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Phat writes:
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some of us think communism is also, seeing as how it failed after the Cold War.
I always ask, and never get much of an answer: Did communism fail because of its own flaws? Or did it fail because its enemies spent billions and billions and billions of dollars to make it fail?
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The only folks left who embraced it lived in nations too poor to ever embrace Capitalism.
That's an interesting comment on capitalism. Are you saying one has to be rich to embrace capitalism?
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Phat writes:
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No humans worth their salt would ever lay everything at the feet of Government.
Stop it. Stop it. Stop it.
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Nobody is saying ANYTHING about government. We're talking about laying everything at JESUS' feet.
"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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