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nwr
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Message 23 of 99 (885870)
04-28-2021 10:19 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by robertleva
04-28-2021 7:19 AM


I watched this debate before
I didn't. And I don't intend to watch it now.
I find it hard to think of anything worse than listening to Dawkins attacking religion.
But I managed to think of one thing that could be worse, and that's Lennox defending religion.

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Message 24 of 99 (885871)
04-28-2021 10:28 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by robertleva
04-28-2021 7:46 AM


Something from nothing
A bullshit argument. It is an evidence free argument, so cannot actually demonstrate anything. And, at most, it can make a weak case for deism. But the dishonest apologists then try to turn that into an argument for Christianity.
fine tuning everywhere we look for it
Another bullshit argument. The Douglas Adams "puddle" argument answers it very well.
evolution is actually just stacking more improbability on the already astounding improbability of the something from nothing "explanation" currently given
That's an argument based on ignorance of evolution.
evolution's mechanism is incremental change, but the DNA molecule cannot be improved upon incrementally
Also based on an all too common misunderstanding.

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Message 83 of 99 (886089)
05-05-2021 11:21 AM
Reply to: Message 69 by marc9000
05-05-2021 7:42 AM


Now, beginning only in the past few decades, and ramping up drastically in only the past few years, we're seeing an increasing hostility and intolerance towards conservative free speech.
Where? Is there any evidence of this? I still see great respect for freedom of speech.
For months now, Donald Trump has been banned from Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Youtube, and Snapchat.
That has nothing to do with free speech. Those are private businesses. And, according to conservative principles (if there are any of those remaining), businesses are entitled to make these decisions.
This forum's longtime poster Faith, was permanently banned, not for breaking forum rules or vulgar language, but for having an opinion on something that administration deemed "dangerous".
Again, that has nothing to do with free speech. I opposed the banning of Faith. However, this is a privately owned forum. The owner of the forum has the right to make that decision as a way of exercising his right of free speech. And you have the right to setup your own forum if you wish to.

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