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Michael MD
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Message 1 of 589 (885430)
04-11-2021 12:03 PM


My Creation Model is based on a theory of a universal ether that underlies the quantum/atomic processes observable to us. Currently, there is a growing body of dissident physics theorists who claim that consensus physics is in error in holding that such an ether does not exist. -Here, I will not try to go into all the aspects of this theoretical disconnect, but rather I will just present my ether-based model of creation.
In my Model, any ether would have to be universal, by its very nature, and it would have had to originate according to a logical sequence of events. I propose that what came first was universal space, a "pure" space, free from everything else, such as forces. Thus, it could have been extremely self-compatible, such that small "localities" within it were reciprocally oscillating. These localities would have probably been of a very tiny size, and conceivably ultimately-minuscule ("point-like.") -Then, "points" adjacent to each other underwent oscillatory fatigue, and formed "Yin and Yang" couplets. (Oscillatory fatigue is a known process. It occurs in metals.) -This transition broke the perfect symmetry of oscillation, so that now there were ultimately-rarified ("elemental") point-like, or "etheric," units, which were now independently vibrating, rather than reciprocally oscillating.
However, this transition would not have been uniform and simultaneous throughout space. Now there were, here and there, couplet-units which would have tended to merge, as their mutual matching vibrations contacted and combined with each other. (The idea here would be that the non-uniformity of this first-causal process would have included some areas where the motion of various units happened to be relatively linear, which would have accelerated the alignments of different units, causing the units to entrain with each other, producing larger and larger units, at first "etheroidal," and then up to the size-scale of quantum units and atoms.
At this point., there would have been multiple fluxes of energy units moving in different directions. Like-to-like resonances would have tended to form confluences, or "islands," where extremely-intense, extremely-rarified, and complex energic processes occurred. Within such an "island," the combinations of energy units could even have produced quantization, and solid moieties. If one such moiety, or body, happened to be roundish in shape (or"cosmic egg" like), then any energic interactions of the body's outer surface with the etheric radiations in its surroundings, which happened to be tangential, could have resulted in reverberating circuits of energy around the body, which then could have produced a sapient Entity (ies).
Eventually, the overall ongoing processes would have brought about an "ether macrocosm." However, the effects of the transient type of magnetism of such a macrocosm upon any quantum bodies at such a quantized "island" would have made things unstable there, so it was decided to create a quantum macrocosm (our universe.) To accomplish this, electron/photons (the smallest and speediest quantum units) were projected, using the intense surrounding energies, toward a "virgin" ether region, causing the ether there to undergo a patterned, chain-reactional, transition to quantum units (as the electrons' motion through the ether aligned the vibrations of ether units, producing entrainments into larger units. (One effect of the electron/photon unit being used to create the universe would have been that its velocity (the speed of light) would have remained as the highest speed limit in the universe.)
Edited by Michael MD, : typographical error (I typed "than" instead of the intended word. "that."

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Michael MD
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Message 3 of 589 (885432)
04-12-2021 11:51 AM
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04-11-2021 12:48 PM


Re: Review Pending promotion
My forum preference would be the Cosmology and Big Bang Forum.
I would thoroughly welcome any and all challenges. I have studied the scientific theoretic aspects that went into this Creation Model for years.
To be completely informative about how I arrived at my Model, I have been doing cryptographic research into a putatively-otherworldly set of codes in a historical Document (The Declaration of Independence), which I claim outlines "inside" but valid basic information needed to derive such a wide-ranging, yet consistently logical, cosmic model.
Michael Anteski (MD)

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Michael MD
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Message 22 of 589 (885457)
04-13-2021 1:13 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by AZPaul3
04-12-2021 5:04 PM


Re: Stop and smell the aether
You cited Michelson and Morley as evidence in rebuttal of my model claiming an ether exists. The Michelson-Morley Experiment of 1887 (MMX) assumed that any kind of ether would have to behave as a conducting medium for the passage of light beams. MMX used optical refractions to measure how light beams behave in different gravity settings, and found no evidence of ether. Subsequently, other experiments have used similar optical methods, with different modifications (other than varying gravity settings). Physics still holds to MMX as the chief evidence against the existence oi an ether. However, in my Ether Model, the ether had to have arisen first causally,would quite probably be ultimately-rarified, and vanishingly smaller than the photons which transmit visible light beams. Such an ether would not have any inertial interface with the light beams. The ether and the light beams could not interact, With this type of ether, physics would be wrong in dismissing ether on the basis of MMX.
If, as I claim, quantum units were formed by vibrations of elemental ether units aligning and entraining into larger and larger units, and thus becoming "building blocks" of quantum units and atoms, then quantum units could still display evidence of that, thus verifying ,my Ether Model. I would claim that such evidence exists, if one looks closely at quantum entanglement (QE.)
I believe QE represents radiated packets of etheric energy which have the same vibratory pattern. Elemental ether units are the only participants in QE, with the quantum units as a whole being kinetically "walled off" like the cool "arms" of a quiet, purring, ether mechanism.
The dynamics of how quantum units interact involves waves, vectors, and so on, of course, but i claim that quantum units simultaneously retain a subtle ability to interact with the underlying ether, through vibrations. Take a fresh look at QE from this perspective. -The ether is the prime actor in all quantum dynamics. Physics is making a basic error in dismissing the ether.

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Michael MD
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Message 37 of 589 (885501)
04-14-2021 10:44 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by Tanypteryx
04-13-2021 4:34 PM


Re: Stop and smell the aether
In order for physics to directly study the ether, it would need to have a way to generate a predominantly selectively-etheric field.
Our present technologies are geared toward qiuantum/atomic forces because those are the kinds we can observe directly.
I claim that the primary actor in all those manifestations is the ether. What our technologies are geared for are quantum forces, which interact with each other via things we can observe, like waves, vectors, and so on. Their primary motivation, operationally, comes from how these larger energy units first "feel" changes in the underlying ether, through its vibrations, and the effect that has on the "building block" elemental ether units they are made of.

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Michael MD
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Message 47 of 589 (885518)
04-16-2021 9:37 AM
Reply to: Message 38 by nwr
04-14-2021 10:59 PM


Re: Stop and smell the aether
What I meant in my post about "generating a selectively etheric field" did not refer to fashioning some sort of a "generator." You would instead generate the field from the planet itself, using natural materials as resonators, and a certain way of arranging the components of the in-the-field set-up.
The protocol I have in mind would be a major one, and pretty expensive

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Michael MD
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Posts: 108
Joined: 04-03-2021


Message 48 of 589 (885519)
04-16-2021 9:57 AM
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04-15-2021 8:36 AM


Re: Stop and smell the aether
I received my MD degree from Boston University School of Medicine. I practiced medicine for 30 years, including a couple years in the US Army Medical Corps. I am now retired from medicine.
I became interested in para mainstream mysteries in the 1970s, when people began debating about the Bermuda Triangle and a few other similar areas. That eventually led me to focus mainly on the scientific questions that arose. Ultimately, it led to the ether model I developed.

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Michael MD
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Message 66 of 589 (885559)
04-18-2021 7:57 AM
Reply to: Message 52 by nwr
04-16-2021 1:08 PM


Re: Stop and smell the aether
It's easy to say "get your material published," another thing to do it.
Academic specialty journal editors would probably not even forward it for peer reviews. I have tried submitting it, and got responses such as "I wouldn't know where to start."
Trying this interdisciplinary, wide-ranging, kind of model in a forum like EvC seemed the likeliest way to go, with the kind of model I have.

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Michael MD
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Message 67 of 589 (885560)
04-18-2021 8:15 AM
Reply to: Message 50 by Tanypteryx
04-16-2021 12:42 PM


Re: Stop and smell the aether
By "selectively etheric field" I meant producing a "forced," or sort of artificial, field, by intensifying the proportion of etheric components, using specific resonators, in an area where ambient rarified units exist naturally as a normal combination, or mixture, of quantum and etheric components. Such a naturally-occurring mixture of units, in my Model, would range from elemental ether units at the smallest scale, through somewhat larger "etheroidal" units, on up to quantum scale units. -You would not aim to produce an exclusively-etheric field, but rather to produce one that has a significantly higher degree of etheric components than would otherwise occur.
I'm sorry but I could not go into specific details more than this over the Internet.

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Michael MD
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Posts: 108
Joined: 04-03-2021


Message 77 of 589 (885574)
04-19-2021 9:12 AM
Reply to: Message 67 by Michael MD
04-18-2021 8:15 AM


Re: Stop and smell the aether
Actual experiments have been done in the area of synchronizing sound waves that have produced levitation (of relatively light-weight objects), and the researchers have speculated, rather vaguely, about "some sort of etheric process" being at work. -I have not yet seen anyone propose a detailed model for how etheric effects like this are produced (other than mine.)
The way my ether model would address this effect would be that if one focuses synchronized sound waves upon an ordinary object, you produce a state of increased energic motion upon the molecules and atoms of the object, an effect that can, when intensified by sufficient amplification/synchronization, "filter down" to yet-smaller components of the object, which are more etheric. (In my model, etheric components involved in producing the etheric effect of levitation would not involve the elemental ether units inside the object, but rather, "intermediate," already-partially quantized, "etheroidal" units, which are still dynamically within the vibrational dynamic of the ether, but are also "nearly quantal" and in a partially-energized state. By intensifying the internal energy-state of the internal units the object is composed of, using the sound waves, the overall density of the object becomes more etheric and levitates.

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Michael MD
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Message 83 of 589 (885608)
04-20-2021 2:06 PM
Reply to: Message 82 by Tanypteryx
04-19-2021 8:03 PM


Re: Stop and smell the aether
The standard model of acoustic levitation includes a number of hypothetical propositions, and is based on quantum physics, with no consideration of any possible underlying ether..
I hold to my ether (sub)model for acoustic levitation. -A key feature of this model is the idea that the larger ether units (which could be called "etheroidal" in my model) are the units involved, because they would be much closer in size-scale to the quantum/atomic units, which represent most of the levitating object's bulk. In my ether model for acoustic levitation, the linear effect of increased acoustic energy focused upon the object creates an increase in the alignment of the vibrations of etheroidal units in the object, this increase in etheric activity causing an increase in the amount of the ether, relative to the amount of quantum units, making up the entire object, and decreasing the object's density, causing it to levitate.
Elemental ether units would not be involved in this kind of ether process. The best example of how the elemental ether units would be centrally important would be quantum entanglement (QE). I have previously mentioned my submodel for QE, which is that QE represents radiated packets of elemental ether units which have the same vibratory pattern. My creation-model proposes that vibrational elemental ether units are universal, their formation having been from an original universal oscillation, so that they would be first-causally related.) They would also, later, become the basic "building blocks" of quantum units. Identical elemental ether units would also exist throughout space. In QE, the elemental units comprising the quantum units "feel" the surrounding ether's elemental units, and thus each other, through the mutual vibrations.
I reviewed QE again, to better illustrate how my Model proposes different ways elemental units, and larger etheroidal units, could affect the behavior of overlying quantum units.

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Michael MD
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Message 87 of 589 (885649)
04-21-2021 2:19 PM
Reply to: Message 86 by AZPaul3
04-20-2021 3:06 PM


Re: Stop and smell the aether
By referring to "a review" of quantum entanglement, I was referring (possibly confusingly) to the fact that I had already given my ether model for quantum entanglement, and in the present Post, I am mentioning it again. I repeated the same description of the entanglement model in order to show how, in my ether model, elemental ether units can account for quantum entanglement, whereas in acoustic levitation, my model would call instead upon the much-larger "etheroidal" ether units, which in size scale are more able to quickly respond to an outside energy source, and interact, to produce levitation.
To appreciate how my model works, one has to keep in mind that etheric units interact via vibration, only. Quantum units interact via a dynamic involving the familiar waves, vectors, and so on, but are viewed in my model as also retaining the ability to interact vibrationally with the ether.

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Michael MD
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Message 97 of 589 (885809)
04-27-2021 7:15 AM
Reply to: Message 94 by AZPaul3
04-25-2021 6:25 PM


Re: Entanglement
How can I "respond" to counter-arguments from consensus quantists citing the various opinions on quantum entanglement of "authorities" whose fundamental assumption about ether is that it does not exist?
My model of entanglement should get serious consideration. To the quantists, I would cite Occam's Razor.

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Michael MD
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Message 102 of 589 (885867)
04-28-2021 10:12 AM
Reply to: Message 101 by AZPaul3
04-27-2021 10:17 AM


Re: Entanglement
By saying that the ether "died over a century past," you appear to refer to the Michelson-Morley Experiment of 1887 (MMX), which was accepted by physics as a"null" result, meaning it did not show evidence of an ether acting together with the light beams being measured, by using optical refraction instruments. The original MMX did measurements under different gravity settings (settings were judged according to the rotational motion of Earth, and measured at different angles.) Subsequent versions of MMX through the years have used different modifications of this (other than differing gravity settings), and physics continues to accept MMX as the chief reason for rejecting ether.
I claim that the type of ether I propose in my Model is not disproven by these MMXs, due to one simple, logical, reason. -All versions of MMX used measurements of light beams and they all assumed that any kind of ether would act in concert with the light beams, as a kind of "medium" for the light to pass through.
In my Ether Model, the ether is composed of individual units derived from first-causally-related processes, and as such would probably consist of ultimately-rarified ("elemental" units. I propose that units on that kind of size-scale would be vanishingly-smaller than the subquantal photons that transmit visible light beams. With my model, the ether would not be able to interact with the light beams, because no inertial interface would exist.
An example that would illustrate my point would be where a car is travelling through a stationary cloud of dust. The car ("photon") would not be affected by the individual dust particles ("ether units"), and would pass through without interacting with them at all (no inertial interface; the dust is simply brushed aside.)
I still claim physics is in error in dismissing the Ether, and in accepting the MMX as evidence.

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Message 104 of 589 (885876)
04-28-2021 11:06 AM
Reply to: Message 103 by nwr
04-28-2021 10:42 AM


Re: Entanglement
I do not accept wave theories grounded in quantum theory as evidence against the ether, either. -I won't try to go into great detail on it, but my ether model would have it that quantum waveforms are primarily generated by etheric processes. -According to my ether model, what we observe at the quantum level as the peak of a wave represents a cascade of near-quantum ("etheroidal") units, passing into the quantum realm, after being activated, vibrationally, by some outside energy source. The nadir of the wave represents local exhaustion of these energy units, which have passed from the etheroidal state into a quantum state, while the ether in the vicinity of the wave reverts to a quieter vibrational state, that it had before the energy-stimulus.

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Michael MD
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Message 115 of 589 (885945)
04-29-2021 1:20 PM
Reply to: Message 114 by Son Goku
04-29-2021 8:44 AM


Re: Entanglement
According to my model, the ether initiates the forces that, when they quantize, manifest to our quantum/atomically structured eyes as waveforms. Your argument that Maxwell had some kind of unique approach to wave theory overlooks the fact that Maxwell, just by referring to "waves," is referring to a quantum effect. I fail to see how that would make his approach to "waves" especially dismissive of an underlying ether's role in initiating waves.
The idea of my model, for how observed waveforms are generated by underlying ether, is that firstly, any outside source of energy would necessarily have to have an etheric component, and the etheric units of the outside energy would exert the energy's linear forces, as it encroaches upon a local area in its path, where the ether is unenergized, and vibrating quietly and randomly. This affects the unenergized "local" ether units, by aligning their vibrations, which causes them to begin entraining, which forms larger and larger ether units, which could be called "etheroidal." Etheroidal units are still within the vibrational dynamic of the ether, but as they entrain further, they become quantum-sized, and at that point, become visible as a wave, which reaches a peak, then, as the local etheroidal units become exhausted, the ether returns to its prior quiet state, represented visually as a nadir in the waveform.

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