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Tangle Member Posts: 9573 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 6.2
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Well, well, well..
Fractured rocks of impact craters may be suitable hosts for deep microbial communities on Earth and potentially other terrestrial planets, yet direct evidence has remained elusive. Now, a team of researchers from the Linnaeus University and elsewhere has found evidence for ancient microbial life in rock samples from the Siljan impact crater in Sweden. Signs of Ancient Microbes Found within 381-Million-Year-Old Crater | Sci.NewsJe suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9573 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 6.2 |
Is it too much to ask to get a proposed topic promoted these days?
Is there anyone home? Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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AdminPhat Inactive Member |
Thread copied here from the Microbes found in Meteors thread in the Proposed New Topics forum.
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Phat Member Posts: 18590 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 2.7 |
Sorry I just now saw this. I hope I put the topic in an appropriate forum.
quote:Are they saying that the microbes came from elsewhere than earth? Im not clear on that part... "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.- Dr.John Lennox The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.- Criss Jami, Killo The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him. Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You(1894).
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PaulK Member Posts: 17894 Joined: Member Rating: 8.0
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No - they’re talking about Earthly microbes moving into meteor impact sites. The thread title should be Microbes found in Meteor Craters.
At Siljan we see that the crater is colonized but that it has mainly occurred when conditions, such as temperature, became more favorable than at the impact event, Dr. Drake said.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9573 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 6.2 |
Phat writes: Are they saying that the microbes came from elsewhere than earth? Not quite. They've found evidence of ancient microbes in a crater made by a comet. There's a remaining question there. A big hint.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Phat Member Posts: 18590 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 2.7 |
Ive got to really read the article deeper when I get the time. Im busy a lot.
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.- Dr.John Lennox The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.- Criss Jami, Killo The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him. Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You(1894).
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PaulK Member Posts: 17894 Joined: Member Rating: 8.0
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I’ve skimmed the paper at ResearchGate
They are quite definitely talking about colonisation of the impact site by deep-living terrestrial microbes - about 300 million years after the impact. So, no. There is no suggestion that the microbes came from anywhere but deep in the Earth, and they even suggest that their methods can be used to avoid the mistake of thinking that the microbes arrived with the meteor.
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Phat Member Posts: 18590 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 2.7 |
On a somewhat related topic, I read that because of global warming the arctic permafrost is melting and potentially releasing lots of previously frozen virus,bacteria, and ancient goop that could infect living things again. Is this in any way true?
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.- Dr.John Lennox The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.- Criss Jami, Killo The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him. Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You(1894).
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PaulK Member Posts: 17894 Joined: Member Rating: 8.0 |
The permafrost is definitely melting. It will definitely contain. microbes. It could contain microbes capable of infecting humans. But I don’t think anyone died from infections caught from the frozen mammoths that have been dug out of there.
I can’t rule out the possibility of there being something nasty out there, but it doesn’t seem a huge risk.
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jar Member Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined: |
PaulK writes: I can’t rule out the possibility of there being something nasty out there, but it doesn’t seem a huge risk. Compared to the risk from the methane that will be released the risks from microbes and viruses should be relatively minor.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 9.4
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jar writes: PaulK writes:
Compared to the risk from the methane that will be released the risks from microbes and viruses should be relatively minor. I can’t rule out the possibility of there being something nasty out there, but it doesn’t seem a huge risk. I can't imagine that microbes from thawing arctic permafrost would pose any more risk to humans than microbes from the Congo or anywhere else. Many of the microbes in the arctic are what produces the methane.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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jar Member Posts: 34140 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Tanypteryx writes: I can't imagine that microbes from thawing arctic permafrost would pose any more risk to humans than microbes from the Congo or anywhere else. It reminds me of a line from "The Jerk"; "enough of these old wines, bring me some NEW wines". Enough of those old viruses and microbes; bring me some NEW viruses and microbes. Any microbes or viruses from thawing permafrost will be viruses and microbes that it's likely humans have experienced before and so may have some immunity to any ill effects. But now them NEW viruses and microbes might be a whole different story.
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Phat Member Posts: 18590 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 2.7 |
Ahhh yes. Global warming. The Science based Leftist counterpart to the Right Wing CCoI Antichrist, False Prophets, Spiritual War, Armageddon scenario. And you guys have science on your side! I still predict that the supernatural (AKA The Unexplained) will become evident in the next few years. Of course you will pass it off as a delusion and fantasy just as many right wingnuts pass off global warming as a fantasy. The difference is that you have science on your side while all we have is subjective shared experience.
This is why I drive down the middle of the road and try not to be too extreme either way. AddByEdit: But for the record, I do believe that global warming is real. Edited by Phat, : No reason given. Edited by Phat, : add by edit"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain " *** far from science having buried God, not only do the results of science point towards his existence, but the scientific enterprise itself is validated by his existence.- Dr.John Lennox The whole war between the atheist and the theist comes down to this: the atheist believes a 'what' created the universe; the theist believes a 'who' created the universe.- Criss Jami, Killo The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of a doubt, what is laid before him. Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You(1894).
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4597 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 9.4
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What?
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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