Free will vs Omniscience

Well, since I consider the concepts of comic book superheroes and religious deities to be equally improbable the questions are, shall we say, rhetorical.

If we define a unicorn in the usual way, four legs, tail, mane, horn, etc, you can think about it, know what it is, and decide whether there is such a thing.But if you add another property, "existence", then things get more interesting. A unicorn is something that exists, has four legs, tail, mane, horn, etc. Does it exist? Yes, of course, by definition!

No. I do see something you don't. You are simply afraid to ask.

No.

It doesn't matter what is your view point, the logic of the question should be the same. So, the key in the answer is the logic, not the content. If you repeat your question, I will show you what do I mean.

Yes. https://www.evcforum.net/Images/Moods/mood6.gif (how do I put the smily face on the post?)Edited by Juvenissun, : No reason given.

Who decided to create us?

According to logic, reason, and reality, our parents made the decision through behavior that sparked us into physical existence. As far as anything else, (ostensibly God) I would have to study the scriptures. If God is the Creator of all seen and unseen, He logically would have allowed our parents parents, etc...all the way back through the history of the human to also freely (or ignorantly) decide to create the spark. The jury is out on whether or not God was more Deistic, allowing natural events to happen, or whether He intentionally had a hand in human development. But thats another topic.

Yawn.You once again dance away, palm the pea, try to move the goal posts, look for anyway possible to keep from admitting you market a vile, evil god unworthy or respect or worship.How utterly pitiful.

Oh grow up.Do you have any reason for your opinion on my alleged Carny Hucksterism?You have a massive chip on your shoulder against the apologists, and are quite good at telling me that I dance away and palm the pea, but you provide no reasoned argumentation as to why you carry this massive chip nor why you favor the critical thinking, scientific methodology and naturalist approach that you were taught and why the Christians are liars and/or fantasy based. The God I market is the God I accepted into my heart and mind. I have no idea what your God tells you that distinguish's Her from my Guy, but perhaps instead of insults you could attempt more of an entertaining and rational discussion.

You seem impervious to reason or rationality Phat.

We.

Explain. You asked me two simple questions and I answered them honestly. Im trying to understand your world view, which one would think would be easier seeing as how we both claim to be believers. Lets try this again. So if God created all humans, and only later separated them into sheep and goats after they had lived out their life choices its kosher, right?But my point is what difference would it make if God knew what our choices would be before we made them? How does that added knowledge stamp the Deity as evil (at least in the eyes of humans)? Is it because we would have expected Him to save all of us, like Joe Woods hypothetical Warlord?

No. The evil is in creating not in any final result.The evil is a god that creates someone or something that the god already knows is damned. No Phat. It is the very act of creating that individual that is so vile and evil. It is a matter of when some show trial is held. Before even creating that individual the god you market knew that individual was damned.

Who says it is evil? You?
Do you know what evil is? Are you evil? Why not? Edited by Juvenissun, : No reason given.Edited by Juvenissun, : No reason given.