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Topic: Did the Flood really happen?
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 755 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Re: Time scales
How about, say, the State of Illinois? Nice, 200 foot deep topsoil that’s been there for at very least a couple of thousand years? You are talking nonsense, Juve. Edited by Coragyps, : No reason given.
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Juvenissun
Member (Idle past 1329 days) Posts: 332 Joined: 07-25-2020
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Message 2117 of 2370 (880874)
08-13-2020 9:59 AM
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Reply to: Message 2116 by Coragyps
08-12-2020 8:15 PM
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Re: Time scales
How about, say, the State of Illinois? Nice, 200 foot deep topsoil that’s been there for at very least a couple of thousand years? You are talking nonsense, Juve. It is not likely to have that thick of soil (know why?). What you said should be the glacial deposit laid down about 5000 years ago. Not be ignorant again, I suggest you save your last sentence if you respond again.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Re: Time scales
Juvenissun writes: How much sediments is available for deposition?
As much as the flood waters could hold.
Juvenissun writes: The mud in the soil will suspend in water and be carried to the ocean and deposited in the ocean.
The whole world was ocean. The mud would settle everywhere.
Juvenissun writes: How do I explain to you that loose sediments DO NOT stay on land for long (say, 100 years)? How about rain. Rain will easily wash them around and eroded them away, or redistribute them to river channel.
I live on a dry lake bed. The clay is up to 15 meters thick and has been there for thousands of years.
"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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Juvenissun
Member (Idle past 1329 days) Posts: 332 Joined: 07-25-2020
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Message 2119 of 2370 (880905)
08-13-2020 9:12 PM
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Reply to: Message 2118 by ringo
08-13-2020 12:39 PM
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Re: Time scales
I live on a dry lake bed. The clay is up to 15 meters thick and has been there for thousands of years. That is good to know. Should be an exciting place. The mud accumulated in there because it is the lowest place in the region. And, if those mud was laid in the surrounding high ground before, then it was eroded into this dry lake. Then you will not be able to identify which lump of mud came from which direction. Like I said, if sediment was eroded, then it lost the identity of its depositional locality.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Re: Time scales
Juvenissun writes: Then you will not be able to identify which lump of mud came from which direction.
As I said before, the chemical composition of the mud will tell you where it came from.
Juvenissun writes: Like I said, if sediment was eroded, then it lost the identity of its depositional locality.
And you were wrong. The chemical composition is not changed by erosion. Erosion just makes smaller pieces.
"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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Juvenissun
Member (Idle past 1329 days) Posts: 332 Joined: 07-25-2020
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Message 2121 of 2370 (880935)
08-14-2020 4:06 PM
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Reply to: Message 2120 by ringo
08-14-2020 12:15 PM
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Re: Time scales
You are stubborn.
Chemical composition of sediments are different everywhere. We do not know what does the chemical composition of the sediments look like during the global flood.
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kjsimons
Member Posts: 822 From: Orlando,FL Joined: 06-17-2003 Member Rating: 5.3
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Re: Time scales
Take a few semesters of geology and then get back to us. You are totally ignorant of event the most basic geographic processes.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Re: Time scales
Juvenissun writes: Chemical composition of sediments are different everywhere.
Yes. That's what gives us clues about what comes from where.
Juvenissun writes: We do not know what does the chemical composition of the sediments look like during the global flood.
Well, IF there was a global flood, there ought to be traces of it. If there are no traces, you can not legitimately claim that it happened.
"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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Minnemooseus
Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: 11-11-2001 Member Rating: 10.0
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Message 2124 of 2370 (880943)
08-15-2020 12:06 AM
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Reply to: Message 2120 by ringo
08-14-2020 12:15 PM
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Weathering and erosion
Not that anything Juvenissun says makes much if any sense, but... Weathering - Breaking down the rock via physical and/or chemical means. Physical weathering and/or chemical weathering. Physical weathering turns rock into smaller pieces, chemical weathering causes chemical changes in the rock materials (eg feldspars changed into clay(s), or things going into solution). Erosion is the movement of the materials. You can have weathering without having erosion. Moose Added by edit: Just visited the "Do Nothing Button" for enlightenment, and it said:
Colorful clay will take you to places you never expected not to visit! Edited by Minnemooseus, : Added by edit.
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Juvenissun
Member (Idle past 1329 days) Posts: 332 Joined: 07-25-2020
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Message 2125 of 2370 (880949)
08-15-2020 4:46 AM
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Reply to: Message 2123 by ringo
08-14-2020 9:25 PM
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Re: Time scales
Juvenissun writes: Chemical composition of sediments are different everywhere. Yes. That's what gives us clues about what comes from where. No. If you like to know why, then ask.
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Juvenissun
Member (Idle past 1329 days) Posts: 332 Joined: 07-25-2020
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Re: Weathering and erosion
very good. you do can use dictionary. great achievement.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Re: Weathering and erosion
Moose writes: Erosion is the movement of the materials. You can have weathering without having erosion.
Thanks. 
"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Re: Time scales
Juvenissun writes: No. If you like to know why, then ask.
Since you don't seem to know what you're talking about, I don't see much point in asking you anything. If you have something to say, say it.
"I've been to Moose Jaw, now I can die." -- John Wing
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Minnemooseus
Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: 11-11-2001 Member Rating: 10.0
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Re: Weathering and erosion
very good. you do can use dictionary. great achievement. Geology degree, you ignorant weasel. Moose
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Juvenissun
Member (Idle past 1329 days) Posts: 332 Joined: 07-25-2020
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Message 2130 of 2370 (880994)
08-16-2020 7:33 AM
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Reply to: Message 2128 by ringo
08-15-2020 8:49 AM
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Re: Time scales
Since you don't seem to know what you're talking about, I don't see much point in asking you anything. If you have something to say, say it. No question, no answer. I am not begging you to understand.
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